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Dean · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: Beyond the Real Human Diet

Besides eating our natural diet of animal foods, what are some of the non-animal foods you include in your diet?

For me, it is only dry seasoning at this time, but, I may include others in the future.

Was curious what others include.

Sunny

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Van · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject:

I can't seem to trust that I will be getting enough vit-c or whatever you might want to call it. Thus I eat a half or one Meyer lemon and it's pulp each day. Sometimes I have a few soaked almonds, but am really giving a go at zero carb.

Dean · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject:

You know, Van, I have been a bit concerned about that very thing recently, because I noticed inflammation in my joints, and got a little worried. I'm not sure where the antiscorbutic substance came from in our ancestors diet, but, I have been starting to eat vitamin C pills over the last couple days. After I get through with my MAM Experiment and have lost the weight I want, I may start eating something like lemons or limes... perhaps using the juices to spice up some chicken or fish. Right now, I'm very curious to see if this pain goes away with the vitamin C pills.
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Lynne · Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:51 am Post subject:

i'd be curious too, dean.
the only thing non animal i put in my stomach are dry seasonings.
after reading somewhere on here about fish oil...
i popped two today.

for the omega 3's.
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Heather · Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:40 am Post subject:

Only non-animal beverages.... Toast

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Dean · Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:41 am Post subject:

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Pooti · Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 134 Gender: Female

The only non-meat things I'm doing are the dried spices/herbs (a tiny tiny bit of thyme here and there) and I'm also adding about 2-3 cloves of whole garlic to soup/potroasts. The cloves are removed after cooking and not eaten by me.

I also am still supplementing until I feel fully comfortable with it - I take a multi-vit, calcium/magnesium (for a known calcium deficiency), Vit D3 (for a known Vt D deficiency).

Decaf Coffee in the mornings (water decaffeinated), black

Beyond that my diet is meat, fat, eggs, butter, cheese, shrimp
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jem51 · Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject:

i've been squeezing half a lemon/lime into a quart of water since my 20's. i've attempted giving it up a couple times but just generally feel better if i have it....so i no longer question it. i drink coffee in the morning and consume dairy. some days i eat some produce. the other day i was waiting at an appt and went to big lots looking for something to get me through the next couple hours. i bought an atkins bar. i spent 3 days w the most miserable tummy. i haven't touched anything like that in years and thought 'just this once....' aparently once is too much.

Cody · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:42 am Post subject:

Dean, are you taking fish oil capsules? They are supposed to help with inflammation. Something else you might try is Borage Oil. It contains GLA, which is technically an Omega6 fatty acid, but is supposed to be a potent anti-inflammatory.

My only non-animal food is a couple of Tb of Peanut butter on occasion. I just love the stuff so much.
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Dean · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:30 am Post subject:

Thanks, Cody.

Yah, I'm going to get some fish oil. I'm thinking wild alaska salmon oil. How much do you think I should take? I hope this helps. I've already eliminated so much inflammatory foods, I just don't understand it, unless the grain-fed animal thing is for real, which I'm not ruling out at all. I'm more than likely going to be getting grass-fed meats and eggs after the meat I have is gone. Don't have too much left now.
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Jessica · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject:

Dried spices and supplements (I take vitamin C, magnesium, calcium, and Carson's Lemon Flavored Cod Liver Oil).
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Dean · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:26 am Post subject:

Hey, Jessica,

Do you know if the cod liver oil is like fish oil, in that it helps with inflammation? Does it have lots of omega 3 fat in it? How much do you do a day? Also, does anyone know what the best source of vitamin C is?

Thanks.

Sunny

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Cody · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:58 am Post subject:

Dean, cod liver oil is way too high in Vitamin a to take more than a gram or two per day. I'd recommend fish oil starting with about 3 grams.

Have you read the stuff from VILHJALMUR STEFANSSON? I don't think you really need vitamin c at all. There are much more powerful anti inflammatories than vitamin c:

Dean · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject:

Thanks for this post, Cody.

You know, last night I made pork belly, and I put an extra amount of ginger on it. This morning, my leg was just barely stiff. Almost all the inflammation symptoms were gone! I'm not sure if it's because of the ginger or because of the C I've been taking, but, I'm glad that this inflammation is clearing up. I'm going to get some fish oil today and see if that improves things even more. I was really getting sick of all the inflammation that has been coming on. What do you think caused it?

This all started, and got progressively worse, after I got into meat and water only, back around Thanksgiving. Of course, the meat is all factory farm raised stuff, so, perhaps that is the reason. Too much omega-6 versus omega-3. I know this has been disputed by some, but, if I start doing fish oil and notice a great improvement, I'm going to consider getting local grass-fed bison, free-range chickens/eggs, and other wild type animals, as I used to do on a regular basis.
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Miriam · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject:

So Dean this inflammation is all new?

What were you eating before?
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Dean · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject:

I was eating some SAD junk and the usual seasoned meat, eggs, cheese, wine and coffee with cream.

I am totally amazed that my leg did not hurt and was not stiff when I got up today. Normally it has been, for a couple months now. As I walk around, it gets better, but, it still hurts. So far today, it has not. That's encouraging. A few days ago, I started taking vitamin C, cuz, I was worried that this might be scurvy or something. I'm not sure if it is the vitamin C or the ginger I had last night that is helping. I'm just really glad something is. I'm looking forward to adding in fish oil.

Although Bear, biblelife.org, and others say it doesn't matter whether one eats grass-fed or grain-fed animals, many say it does. I have always tended to believe that it does, just like I believe that dairy, while being animal fat, is not a true paleo food. The closer we eat like our ancestors, the better off we will be. They ate mainly herbivores that grazed on grass. That's why I'm probably going back to eating bison, which I used to eat all the time, and can get for very cheap.
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Cody · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject:

I think its all the fat you've been eating.
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Dean · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject:

Cody, I doubt it. I have had this problem since Thanksgiving, and I was watching my fat intake a bit, in order to lose body fat, which I did. Lost 6 kilos up until my MAM Experiment started. Now I'm stalled in my tracks again. Wink

It's all AC's fault! LOL

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