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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:19 am    Post subject: Dean's Long Strange Magic Bus Trip Reply with quote



We're BAAAAAAAAAACCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!

Toast  Toast  Toast

Congrats Congrats  Congrats

OK... I'll start a journal in here.

I'm 6'0" and have a medium/average build. I should weigh about 170 lbs (if I have good muscle tone, which I want... otherwise 160 or so). My goal has been to get down to 170 lbs with 12% body fat. That is just the first goal. Once I get there, I plan to tweak things as I tone up more and more, and build more muscle. I am currently at 184.2 with 19.1% body fat. That is 14.8 lbs of body fat to lose to reach goal.

My weight has never even hit 205 lbs... and that was even when I spent a whole month going on a HUGE refined sugar binge prior to "starting over" and "getting clean". I think it would take me several years for my weight to climb above 200 lbs on a consistent basis. And, I would have to resort to eating lots of pizza and pasta and such... or I should say overeating this food on a regular basis... something I have never done before. Therefore, eating SAD, my weight stayed around 195 lbs on average. When I quit smoking five years ago, I was concerned that my appetite might get the better of me. I was also wanting to improve my health further. So, I started looking into better ways of eating.

Four years ago I left the HC/LF WOE behind. It was a total joke! At that time, I was exposed to LC, but also "paleo" WOE. I wanted to try paleo, because it seemed to make more sense. When I was strict with the diet, I found that I could eat without counting calories or carbs. I did gradually lose body fat, but never stuck with the diet long enough to see how low I could go with body fat. At times, being inpatient perhaps, I would cut as many carbs out as I could, and therefore ate carnivorously, and would see my body fat go down quicker... once as low as 13.6%. However, if I had just been patient and continued eating "paleo" (fruits and veggies included), who knows what would have happened? I did get down to around 16-17% fairly often eating "paleo"... but, as I said, would go off this WOE and curtail my progress.

On January 1, 2004, I began strict "paleo" and went from 34.8 lbs of body fat to lose (to reach my goal)... down to 8.9 lbs of body fat to lose, by mid-April. That is 25.9 lbs of body fat lost in 16 weeks... 1.6 lbs per week (a nice, steady loss). Of course I abandoned this WOE, and then stopped losing. Who knows where I would have ended up if I had stuck to this WOE?

Calories do come into play. I have lost weight by eating all kinds of different ways, when paying close attention to calories. That is NOT something I have ever wanted to do, however. I HATE FitDay. I also did not want to start counting carbs either, and that may be part of the appeal to eating "paleo" that I had. Fruits and veggies don't have many calories. So, it is no wonder that while eating lean game meat, fruits and veggies, some nuts and seeds, and NO dairy (with it's high calories), I lost weight and body fat easily and steadily. But, how nutritious were those calories?

One thing I can say about carnivorous eating is the appetite suppression is great! However, eating too much fat stalls me big time... once for seven whole months! So, yes... I have been having trouble losing body fat when eating gobs of fat!  I don't know if it is related to excess calories, dairy "bloating" issues, or just exactly what.  For a long time earlier this year the scale was moving in the wrong direction.  I was getting down in the high 180s for a spell, and had my body fat under 20%... then, I upped my fat even more thinking I would lose weight quicker... and this is what happened!

Date Weight BodyFat Fat2Lose
05/07/06 192.2 23.6% 25.0
05/14/06 197.2 22.7% 24.4
05/21/06 197.8 22.2% 23.5

While I did lose 1.5 lbs of body fat... it took me THREE WEEKS to do it!  That is simply unacceptable to me.  Sorry.

I have been tracking my weight and body fat (every Sunday) since 09/15/02.

Once, when eating no dairy, and totally carnivorously for a month, I had these results.

Date Weight BodyFat Fat2Lose
06/29/03 182.0 17.6% 11.6
07/06/03 179.2 17.2% 10.4
07/13/03 176.4 17.2% 9.9
07/20/03 175.6 16.1% 7.9
07/27/03 172.6 13.6% 3.1

Now this I would LOVE to see again!

All in all, I have found, if I give it time, eating only animal food is very easy to do... and the way I look and feel is wonderful.

I just KNOW carnivore is the best WOE for me! Yup



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First...I love the bus.
Second...it sounds as though you know what you have to do to lose what you want to lose.
Third...you know that you have to stick to one routine which has been successful for you.

You look good in your pics and your body fat is low. I think that you should just keep doing what you're doing! Sunny
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Bobi! You're the best bus buddy anybody could have! Wink  

Let's get this bus loaded up with



and get on the "HIGH" WAY! Cool

FULL STEAM AHEAD!!! Devil
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Good kind"? Toast
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HEY! Guess who's here?!

It's Suzanne!!!!!

And... I DO hope she brought her toy box! Devil
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course I brought my toy box, honey! Does this mean I can tie you up and torture you?

Hey, where's the little twisted guy?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's funny... cuz, I was just trying to find him to put him up on the Emoticons!

Devil

Gotta scramble to get these smilies configured!

And, Suzanne... you can tie me up anytime! Devil
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL! Naw relax. It looks like you've been working mighty hard. Sit here and sip your drink and I'll rub your shoulders for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOOHHHHHHHH!!! I'm SO GLAD you made it over here, Suzanne! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you've had a HARD day. You need takin' care of.

And when you feel better and have time, could you add in a hug and kiss smilie? Thank you, darlin'. Need a refill? Toast
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiss How's that?! Heart
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You done good. But only this one is showing up on my screen Kiss Not that I mind...that's a good start.

Now, I'm here. Whatcha gonna do to help me with my problem?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any order you have... I'll do my best to fulfill, fine mistress! Devil
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunday, August 6, 2006

Date Weight BodyFat Fat2Lose
07/02/06 185.2 19.1% 15.0
07/09/06 192.2 20.0% 18.0
07/16/06 188.2 20.0% 17.2
07/23/06 191.4 21.7% 21.1
07/30/06 187.2 19.7% 16.5
08/06/06 184.2 19.1% 14.8

With all that was going on yesterday... and last night, after Suzanne showed up with her toy box! Devil ...

I forgot to post my loss! Cool

That's right, fellow bus travelers... I'm DOWN 1.7 pounds of body fat! Excellent

I think I'll stay on this bus! Yup
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunny That's great! Your doing great. Kiss

Btw: I woke up from a dream that the scales were moving up and then I was traveling in a large motorhome/coach with lots of people. I think I was on the 'puter too long last night. LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean wrote:


That's right, fellow bus travelers... I'm DOWN 1.7 pounds of body fat! Excellent

I think I'll stay on this bus! Yup


Great job, Dean! You're doing so well! I know it's hard, but in the end it's SO worth it. I bet you feel great as well!

Now, where's the exercise? Whip Whipit

(I just love the fact that you have not one but two whip emoticons. Very indicative of this board as a whole Wink.)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooooooooooo....whip emoticons.....I am SO happy to be here!!!!!!! I'll be starting my journal soon, but I don't know about nudie pics yet. The body is still a tad scary without clothing!!! Devil
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Susanne wrote:
ooooooooooo....whip emoticons.....I am SO happy to be here!!!!!!! I'll be starting my journal soon, but I don't know about nudie pics yet. The body is still a tad scary without clothing!!! Devil



Dean said I can be in charge of the nudie pic forum, so I hearby declare that partial nudity is perfectly acceptable for those who are not quite comfortable with letting it all hang out. Looking foward to seeing "all" of you real soon. Devil
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean wrote:
Any order you have... I'll do my best to fulfill, fine mistress! Devil

I think I'd like to start with a nudie picture! I like to look. What can I say?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUN August 6, 2006

FOOD

20oz coffee
2oz half & half

3/4 pound beef burger (bloody)
3oz bbq sauce

one pound beef burger (bloody)
3oz bbq sauce


SUPPLEMENTS

1 twin lab multi (1/4 daily dose)
1 99mg potassium
1/2 tsp cod liver oil


EXERCISE

right Roll Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ask for a nudie picture and I get a food list? Shock I must be loosing my touch!

Help
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MON August 7, 2006

FOOD

20oz coffee
2oz half & half

half roasted small chicken

20oz coffee
2oz half & half

half roasted small chicken

20oz coffee
2oz half & half


SUPPLEMENTS

1 twin lab multi (1/4 daily dose)
1 99mg potassium
1/2 tsp cod liver oil


EXERCISE

any day now


I roasted three small chickens in my large roasting pan last night.
I put some good curry/chili powder spices on these. I never use any oil to cook chicken or turkey... just let 'em cook in their own fat. I only want to consume animal food, except some coconut oil/milk and perhaps a small amount of berries. But, lately I have just been eating meat! Wink

I got this fantastic coffee a few days ago! It's about as good as drinking wine! Well... not quite as good... I'm jealous of you guys! Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give up! I'm going to bed...alone!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He must be playing shy.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Dean, I just realized that it's you, me, and 5 really hot women here. I kinda like that ratio! Devil Do we really want to share? Confused Oh well, I'll just have some more wine and think about it some more. Wine
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL As long as the two of you can keep us ALL satisfied! Devil
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeff wrote:
Hey Dean, I just realized that it's you, me, and 5 really hot women here. I kinda like that ratio! Devil Do we really want to share? Confused Oh well, I'll just have some more wine and think about it some more. Wine

Funny you should mention this - I was thinking about it last nite and wondering if you two boys could keep up. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they can, do you, Susanne?

Not that they wouldn't try, mind you, but it's a lot to ask.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzanne wrote:
I don't think they can, do you, Susanne?

Not that they wouldn't try, mind you, but it's a lot to ask.


Nah...they can't! Devil
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geeze Louise! I just realized something...are any of us women getting sex? We need to change the ratio to two men per woman! Cause one of us would hurt one man.
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As near as I can tell, NOBODY here is getting any, or not much anyway.  hmm, what can be done about this.?????   Devil
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ORGY!! Devil

That Kool-Aid again!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the truth is if I was getting any, do you think I'd be sitting at this keyboard? NO...I'd be chasing him around the house with one of Heather's whips, demanding more.... Devil

Sigh...........................
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Susanne, I sooooo understand!! Comfort
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzanne wrote:
ORGY!! Devil

That Kool-Aid again!


Or, as Dean would say, "CLUSTER FUCK!!!!"
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CLUSTER FUCK!!!
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What did I walk into here? And why is Dean still hiding? He must be really shy....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright Dean! Get in here and play. You're working too hard. Whip
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUE August 8, 2006

FOOD

20oz coffee
2oz half & half

half roasted small chicken

other half roasted small chicken

20oz coffee
2oz half & half


SUPPLEMENTS

1 twin lab multi (1/4 daily dose)
1 99mg potassium
1/2 tsp cod liver oil


EXERCISE

quit asking me that!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WED August 9, 2006

FOOD

20oz coffee
2oz half & half

half roasted small chicken

20oz coffee
2oz half & half

other half roasted small chicken


SUPPLEMENTS

1 twin lab multi (1/4 daily dose)
1 99mg potassium
1/2 tsp cod liver oil


EXERCISE

not really... does typing count?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dean, great forum, love it! :)

It looks like you're doing great!!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean, it's obviously the dairy that's stalling you. Glad you've got that worked out and congrats on the losses. Congrats
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THU August 10, 2006

FOOD

20oz coffee
2oz half & half

5 large eggs (fried in tallow)
tons of tabasco

16oz chuck steak (cooked rare in tallow)
1/2 stick butter
2oz bbq sauce

20oz coffee
2oz half & half


SUPPLEMENTS

1 twin lab multi (1/4 daily dose)
1 99mg potassium
1/2 tsp cod liver oil


EXERCISE

what is that?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean, I checked out your cat pic link. Darn it, they are so cute! :)

I love the last one of you in the pic... you're quite the handsome guy! Blush

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean wrote:
EXERCISE

what is that?


I think it is called "tapering" for the Big Day! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean,
you don't need to exercise to lose weight. have you listened to this interview on low carbing and exercise?

http://hoe.kgnu.net/hoeradioshow.php?show_id=184

I just switched to doing the Superslow/Slowburn/Power of 10 type exercises. you do them once/week for 30 minutes. I now have 3 extra hours of free time per week that I used to spend exercising.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carolyn wrote:
Dean,
you don't need to exercise

See... someone likes me! LOL
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need more exercise....with a partner. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzanne,

Are you volunteering? Devil
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FRI August 11, 2006

FOOD

20oz coffee
2oz half & half

16oz chuck steak (cooked rare in tallow)
1/2 stick butter
2oz bbq sauce

20oz coffee
2oz half & half

SUPPLEMENTS

1 twin lab multi (1/4 daily dose)
1 99mg potassium
1/2 tsp cod liver oil


EXERCISE

I like Suzanne's idea... a lot! Devil



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