Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 555 Born: 19 November 1973 Gender: Female
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: Ginger?
I'm more of a Marianne..
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Denmark researchers have discovered that ginger can block the effects of prostaglandins. These are substances that cause inflammation of the blood vessels in the brain, which leads to migraines. Though the results are still experimental, 1/3 teaspoon of fresh of powdered ginger taken when you feel a migraine coming on can help stop pain before it starts. Using the same theory, ginger has been found to produce "marked" relief in arthritis pain. The ginger tea described above or 1/2 teaspoon of ginger is recommended by Danish researchers for arthritis relief.
A researcher at Cornell University Medical College discovered that ginger has an effect on blood clots that is similar to that of aspirin. By the same token, it appears that high cholesterol levels are lowered using the same active ingredient, thromboxane.
When buying ginger, fresh is best! Be sure to avoid ginger with dry, wrinkled, skin, mold or soft spots. African and Indian ginger are the most potent. Grating or using a garlic press will give you the maximum benefit.
Ginger can definitely give you many benefits but more is not always better. An ounce a day should give you all the benefits you will need
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Research Supports the Health Benefits of Ginger
There are several studies that support the traditionally known health benefits of ginger. Those include:
Two studies about the health benefits of ginger in helping pregnant women with morning sickness showed that ginger root preparations were more effective than a placebo.
A clinical trial that proved that ginger root helped prevent seasickness better than a placebo.
Preliminary results in animal trials show that ginger seems to prevent or slow the rate of tumor growth in cancer.
I was thinking this might help with coffee withdrawls! I posted a recipe for Chicken Ginger Soup in the Flavorful Fowl forum. Enjoy!
Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 4365 Born: 3 January 1960 Gender: Male
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:37 am Post subject:
So did I!
Of course, Mina's got 'em both beat! _________________ When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi Hendrix Every day you'll see the dust
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Location: Milton, Wisconsin, USA Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 4549 Born: 10 March 1960 Gender: Male
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject:
Dean wrote:
So did I!
Of course, Mina's got 'em both beat!
I think so too......but being married and all, I thought maybe I should keep that to myself. _________________ Eat, Drink and Be Merry, For Tomorrow We'll Die
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 555 Born: 19 November 1973 Gender: Female
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject:
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Ginger for blood sugar and cholesterol management
Anti-diabetic and hypolipidaemic properties of ginger (Zingiber officinale) in streptozotocin-induced diabetic rats.
Br J Nutr. 2006 Oct;96(4):660-6. Department of Biological Sciences, Faculty of Science, Kuwait University, 13060-Safat, Kuwait.
An aqueous extract of raw ginger was administered daily (500 mg/kg, intraperitoneally) for a period of 7 weeks to streptozotocin induced diabetic rats. The STZ-injected rats exhibited hyperglycemia accompanied with weight loss, indicating their diabetic condition. At a dose of 500 mg/kg, raw ginger was significantly effective in lowering serum glucose, cholesterol and triacylglycerol levels in the ginger-treated diabetic rats compared with the control diabetic rats. The ginger treatment also resulted in a significant reduction in urine protein levels. In addition, the ginger-treated diabetic rats sustained their initial weights during the treatment period. Moreover, ginger decreased both water intake and urine output in the STZ-induced diabetic rats.
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Ginger Research Update
Ginger appears to help pregnant women who suffer from morning sickness, without side effects to the unborn child, according to a review of the medical literature. In six studies that examined the effects of ginger in reducing nausea and vomiting in expecting mothers, ginger worked better than a placebo, or inactive drug, and as well as Vitamin B6, which has been shown to improve nausea and vomiting in some pregnant women. None of the women who took ginger had problems with their pregnancies, the authors report in the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology.
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Anti-tumor-promoting activities of selected pungent phenolic substances present in ginger.
J Environ Pathol Toxicol Oncol. 1999;18(2):131-9.
Ginger (Zingiber officinale Roscoe, Zingiberaceae) has been widely used as a dietary spice, as well as in traditional oriental medicine. The rhizome of ginger contains pungent vanillyl ketones, including [6]-gingerol and [6]-paradol, and has been reported to possess a strong anti-inflammatory activity. These pungent substances have a vanilloid structure found in other chemopreventive phytochemicals, including curcumin. In our study, we found anti-tumor-promoting properties of [6]-gingerol and [6]-paradol. Taken together, these findings suggest that pungent vanilloids found in ginger possess potential chemopreventive activities
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Effect of Zingiber Officinale Rosc ( ginger ) on lipid peroxidation in hyperlipidemia rats
Wei Sheng Yan Jiu. 2003 Jan;32(1):22-3.
School of Food Science, Northeast Agricultural University, Harbin 150030, China.
Zingiber Officinale Rosc (ginger) is the food of rhizoma species as well as Chinese traditional medicine and has various pharmacological effects. The last researches showed that ginger not only reduced plasma lipid levels but also the mouse atherosclerotic lesion areas. The ginger antioxidative effect maybe pay an important role in attenuation of development of atherosclerosis. Antioxidative effect of ginger on hyperlipidemia rats have been studied and the changes of GSH-Px and LPO in their blood have been observed in this paper. Male adult Wistar rats were grouped into control, preventive and curative teams. The experimental teams were respectively fed on the test diet containing 2% ginger and 5% ginger, in order to measure the changes of plasma lipid peroxides (LPO) and glutathione (GSH-Px) after the experiment. The results show that ginger increased GSH-Px and reduced LPO in the rats' blood. Ginger could inhibit and/or scavenge radicals of rat body in different degrees.
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 555 Born: 19 November 1973 Gender: Female
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject:
does anyone know the conversion of root to powder?
my recipe for soup calls for 3-inch piece fresh ginger, cut into slivers but id rather use the spice powder since 1) i have it , 2) i dont know about the root.. if Im supposed to peel it or whatever and 3) I have the chicken in the crockpot as we speak
and hey I bought chicken thighs since they looked fattier and yummier than drumsticks I covered the thighs with homemade stock and threw in a jar of chicken fat left from cooking the chicken yummy! _________________
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 555 Born: 19 November 1973 Gender: Female
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject:
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Substituting Fresh Ginger for Dried
How much fresh ginger equals 1 teaspoon of ginger powder?
Quite a bit, because ground ginger is very potent. It also does not taste very much like fresh ginger, so most people would tell you to avoid making the substitution — and certainly to think twice before going the other way and substituting ginger powder for fresh ginger.
Dried ginger works well in many savory dishes, such as soups, curries, and meats, in many fruit dishes, and is indispensable in such baked goods as gingerbread and gingersnaps, according to Sharon Tyler Herbst, author of The Food Lover's Tiptionary. Fresh ginger can be used in a much broader range of dishes.
The one reference we've found that gives a substitution hint for going from fresh ginger to powdered says to use 1/8 teaspoon of powder for every tablespoon of ginger. So that would suggest using 8 tablespoons, or a half cup, of ginger for your teaspoon of powder. Depending on the recipe, the addition of that much added food could really upset the finished dish. But we'll leave that decision up to you.
bleah.. I still dont know how many tablesppons or whatever that a 3 in ginger root makes! _________________
Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 4365 Born: 3 January 1960 Gender: Male
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject:
Mina,
I have ginger in the powdered form. I use it with several things. I don't think it has to be real exact. Just put in about 2 or 3 tsps or something. I never measure seasoning. I'm an instinctual seasoner, and always have good results. Using FitDay, I found a 1 inch diameter slice of raw ginger root is the same as 2 tsp of the powder.
HTH, and good luck with that soup. Sounds heavenly!
BTW, I would not advise using Mary Ann seasoning on anything. It's way too hot! _________________ When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi Hendrix Every day you'll see the dust
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Location: Switzerland (Baden) Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 119 Born: 15 July 1967 Gender: Female
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject:
I found this when going threw older replys:
Think about it - you're much more likely to overeat foods that are seasoned. But more importantly, seasonings, herbs and spices have to be detoxed from the body, stimulate the secretion of insulin, and cause withdrawal. It's not just the carbs in plants that are harmful. It's the natural chemicals that are there as a self-defense mechanism.
Location: Santa Fe, NM Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 248 Born: 10 December 1963 Gender: Male
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject:
Nicola wrote:
seasonings, herbs and spices have to be detoxed from the body, stimulate the secretion of insulin,
Help me to understand the part about secretion of insulin. The rest of what you said makes sense but I don't get the insulin part. How are spices and insulin related?
Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 4365 Born: 3 January 1960 Gender: Male
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:13 am Post subject:
Nicola,
I thought Bear did use seasoning.
I agree with what you are saying about the toxic effect, but, it's pretty hard to go to plain raw meat and water. I'm sure it can be done, and, I'm even trying to gradually get there, but, who knows how long I'll be able to stick with that. _________________ When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi Hendrix Every day you'll see the dust
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Location: Canada Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 436 Born: 14 August 1976 Gender: Female
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:44 am Post subject:
I eat plain raw meat and it's tasty. It just takes some getting used to. Some meats, cuts are tastier than others. Organ meats usually have a more pronounced flavor. _________________ "When you give up your dream, you die"
Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 4365 Born: 3 January 1960 Gender: Male
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:11 am Post subject:
Yah, Kristelle, I always think of you when I think of slowly going in this direction. You make it more real for me. Thanks.
Today, I had a 10oz strip steak that I threw into a very hot pan with lots of tallow. I took tongs and after 10 seconds I flipped it over for another 10 seconds, and then put it on a plate and ate it. I put some butter on the top, but, the butter did not melt at all. The steak was still cold, and was totally raw inside. I could not even make out the seared edges. I ate it and felt just fine. Next, I'm gonna do 5 seconds per side, and then 2 seconds. After that, I'm gonna try to eat one totally raw. I think I can. The surface bacteria can't be that much of a threat.
Anyway, I'm movin' in on this raw meat thing. I'm really curious what lies ahead. Keeps me focused on something other than carb cravings. _________________ When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi Hendrix Every day you'll see the dust
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Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 4365 Born: 3 January 1960 Gender: Male
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:09 am Post subject:
Yah, I can see both sides of this, and don't really have an opinion either way. I think some seasoning can be rather benign, depending on the person consuming them, and often may help people either transition to a carnivore diet or help them stick to it. It fascinates me about the medicinal properties in some of these plant based substances. I've tried a few, and, I can tell you, some of them have some pretty trippy qualities. _________________ When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi Hendrix Every day you'll see the dust
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Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 555 Born: 19 November 1973 Gender: Female
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:13 am Post subject:
heh.. just letting you know I am having some of the soup I made right now.. yummy!
I let it cook in the crokpot while I was working.. chicken thighs with stock and chicket fat.. with ginger, onion powder and salt.. it's great.
im going to eat up all this yummy goodness with all of the minerals from my stock and the yummy fat and not share with you guys because you tried to spoil it for me!
jk
yeah it helps me.. all I ate today was maybe 3oz of steak... so a bowl will do me some good!
ps: with 2 packs of chicken and 2 large mason jars of stock/fat I only used 1 tsp of ginger, onion powder and salt.. so im not getting that much spice anyways. _________________
Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 4365 Born: 3 January 1960 Gender: Male
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:18 am Post subject:
Hey, Mina, that soup sounds superb. I want some. I wasn't trashin' the stuff. Sounds really nice and fatty. So, do you think you got the amount of ginger down? How much did you use? If you want, I can update the recipe for ya. Just let me know. _________________ When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi Hendrix Every day you'll see the dust
Never get off the Bus!
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 555 Born: 19 November 1973 Gender: Female
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:23 am Post subject:
dont know it could probably take more
one time I tried to make ginger tea.. and I didnt realize I shouldnt have used so much ginger.. it tasted bad and kind of burned my mouth like a pepper im so.. ditzy eta: i forgot it also caused severe heartburn lol
oh and I know you werent, dean.. Ill send you a bowl _________________
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Location: Santa Fe, NM Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 248 Born: 10 December 1963 Gender: Male
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:24 am Post subject:
I think that when we add spices to our food, the spices can have different effects for different people, and even different effects for one person at different times.
My feeling is to pay attention to my body, to my feelings, and to my relationship to the people I'm with, and to the food. I enjoy sea salt with food. If at some point I feel it's stimulating, in a bad way, I'll stop. Sometimes stimulation is good if our bodies are out of balance. That's the whole purpose of herbal medicine, to stimulate our bodies towards balance.
Regarding my feelings - if adding some spices to a meal gets me to feel that I'm nurturing myself better then that's a really good thing.
And, for me, there's the whole relationship thing. Five of us had dinner together tonight. One friend made a bone broth with meat and some spices - no carbs. I really enjoyed the attention the friend paid to making the dish and was glad he was sharing it with me. Community really matters for me around food. Had I decided that I was only eating raw meat I'd isolate myself and miss a really yummy dish.
Studies have shown that people are happier and live longer when they have family, friends, and a loving community REGARDLESS of their diets. So, while I eat virtually zero carbs I was delighted to imbibe in a glass of kombucha with friends. That level of carb isn't a problem for me. For the next week I'll probably have no carbs.
Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 4365 Born: 3 January 1960 Gender: Male
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:36 am Post subject:
Sol,
Back in the 1920s, the advertising industry did major research into the whole deal of what makes people happy, so they could figure out a way to manipulate them into buying products. They repeated these studies throughout the twentieth century. What they always found is the whole community thing, social relations, those were what people really sought to achieve a sense of well being and happiness, never material things. So, they hooked the advertising of material things with these emotions. We have always been tribal and worked and lived that way. Makes sense that this is a big need we have.
Finding a balance in how we can make our diet work with our environment is tricky, but, it can be done. No need to just give up on it. Sometimes people use social gatherings as an excuse to eat so much junk, and when I attend those things, I often have no choice but to fast. But, many circles of friends are eating very close to the way I do, so, usually, I can eat the food, no problem. I know that even if I ate raw meat, I would still want to eat very rare cooked meat at times when socializing with others. _________________ When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi Hendrix Every day you'll see the dust
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Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 555 Born: 19 November 1973 Gender: Female
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:38 am Post subject:
I agree sol, and also think that each spice and herb is as individual as the person ingesting it.
for example, while turmeric is beneficial for most people (it has anti cancer properties), a woman who is with chilld should not use it.
as far as herbs causing insulin to be secreted or whatever.. well that may be true for some.. but there are others (like basil, cinnamon, asian ginseng and even stevia) that are theraputically being used to treat diabetes and for holding blood sugars in check.
I think to lump all herbs and spices together in the nono category is not necessarily what we want to be doing. The whole reason I brought up ginger was to alleviate coffee withdrawls. it is much better for me to do that than to take ibuprofen imho... and better than me like a little girl too!
many herbs and spices have been used medicinally for years and years... I think the key is education and not just ingesting every thing that is put on the plate before you,, and using them wisely. _________________
Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 4365 Born: 3 January 1960 Gender: Male
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:47 am Post subject:
~mina~ wrote:
The whole reason I brought up ginger was to alleviate coffee withdrawls.
Oh, I thought it was to compare her to Mary Ann.
~mina~ wrote:
many herbs and spices have been used medicinally for years and years... I think the key is education and not just ingesting every thing that is put on the plate before you
Yah, like we used to do back in the daze.
Seriously, Mina, I agree. _________________ When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi Hendrix Every day you'll see the dust
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Sounds really nice and fatty. So, do you think you got the amount of ginger down? How much did you use? If you want, I can update the recipe for ya. Just let me know.
eta: i forgot it also caused severe heartburn lol
like a little girl too!
