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Heart Surgeon Admits Huge Mistake

 
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jeff



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Heart Surgeon Admits Huge Mistake Reply with quote

I'm sure some you of have seen this posted in other forums.  But for those who have not.......

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The only accepted therapy was prescribing medications to lower cholesterol and a diet that severely restricted fat intake.  The latter of course we insisted would lower cholesterol and heart disease.  Deviations from these recommendations were considered heresy and could quite possibly result in malpractice.

It Is Not Working!


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Despite the fact that 25% of the population takes expensive statin medications and despite the fact we have reduced the fat content of our diets, more Americans will die this year of heart disease than ever before.


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Simply stated, without inflammation being present in the body, there is no way that cholesterol would accumulate in the wall of the blood vessel and cause heart disease and strokes.  Without inflammation, cholesterol would move freely throughout the body as nature intended.  It is inflammation that causes cholesterol to become trapped.

Inflammation is not complicated — it is quite simply your body’s natural defense to a foreign invader such as a bacteria, toxin or virus.  The cycle of inflammation is perfect in how it protects your body from these bacterial and viral invaders.  However, if we chronically expose the body to injury by toxins or foods the human body was never designed to process, a condition occurs called chronic inflammation. Chronic inflammation is just as harmful as acute inflammation is beneficial.


For more, read here:

http://www.totalhealthbreakthroug...eart-surgeon-admits-huge-mistake/

And part 2:

http://www.totalhealthbreakthroug...rgeon-admits-huge-mistake-part-2/



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks jeff, I hadn't seen this -great stuff!  Sunny
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you liked it Billi-Jean.  Refreshing to hear somebody admit they did something wrong, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The drug companies are all going to admit that tomorrow. Wink

Hey, one can dream, can't they? LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean wrote:
The drug companies are all going to admit that tomorrow. Wink

Hey, one can dream, can't they? LOL


I'm not holding my breath on that one.   LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One can dream, but it does seem unlikely.  Really, I am surprised that insurance companies are willing to pay for so many to use statins when they are so ineffective and sometimes dangerous.  It's a mystery.  Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heather L wrote:
One can dream, but it does seem unlikely.  Really, I am surprised that insurance companies are willing to pay for so many to use statins when they are so ineffective and sometimes dangerous.  It's a mystery.  Confused


Just my two cents:

They pay for statins because it's standard practice for doctors to prescribe them.  And because they come in generics, which puts them on a lower price tier.  The insurance companies don't look so much at the prescription itself, but more at the reason it is prescribed, and the cost.  If a doctor says it's medically necesary, it generally will be covered according to the plan that applies.  If it's cosmetic or sometimes birth control, they may not.  Depends on the insurance company and the plan involved.  Each drug that is covered is put into a "tier" determined by the insurance company, and coverage applies according to the plan selected.

Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule.  But this is generally the rule.

Insurance companies follow the medical establishment's advice blindly.  Many employ their own staff nurses and other medial professionals for review purposes.  And they are usually fiercely against any alternative or experimental treatment - anything deviating from the majority view.

Bottom line~~~Sigh~~~They pay for statins because in they've been told it's a way for them to avoid paying for heart attacks or strokes.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for making a profit, and not saying that they shouldn't try to do so.  I'm just saying, the concern that they have for a person's health is driven by the dollars behind it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Blindly" would seem to be the key word.  With the damage they can do, and little improvement in "death rates"--or worsening in the case of Vitorin, I think they might as well categorize them as experimental.    I get that the insurance just follows the medical establishment, but what a waste it is considering how strapped most are for health care money.

It's reality, but it's just stupid. KWIM?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heather L wrote:
"Blindly" would seem to be the key word.  With the damage they can do, and little improvement in "death rates"--or worsening in the case of Vitorin, I think they might as well categorize them as experimental.    I get that the insurance just follows the medical establishment, but what a waste it is considering how strapped most are for health care money.

It's reality, but it's just stupid. KWIM?


I totally agree.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bottom line is the entire health industry is totally screwed up! That's why people are looking for alternatives to the crap that has been put out there. When serious research is done, it always contradicts the research that was bought and paid for by the Food Industry and Drug Companies that of course has all been backed up by the Government, which makes it even harder to deal with. So many people blindly follow this "advice" and then we don't dare speak our minds for fear of looking like total freaks. It's pretty frustrating, isn't it?

The other day there were three women talking in a break room. One woman, who has some weight to lose, asked this super skinny vegan what her secret was in getting so thin. The third woman, who is very obese, said "she grazes all day and does not eat any animal products at all"... to which I said, "I'm just the total opposite. I eat only once per day, and I eat only animal products". This woman replied, "well, you don't have any weight to lose". Shock I was gonna say, "yah, but neither does she (the grazing vegan)", but, I just shook my head and walked out of the break room, where everyone was madly stuffing dollar bills into vending machines! Roll Eyes



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