The Magic Bus Trip

Dean · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: June Carnivore Contest

June Carnivore Contest

All foods should be as natural, fresh, and whole as possible. Animal fat should be kept high, and carbs kept very low. Toxic treats should be kept to a minimum. Figure out what you can handle. Figure out what you need. Set your own goals and be honest with yourself.

Allowed
* any part of any animal (including processed meat)
* eggs
* VLC dairy
* VLC vegetation
* olive/nut oil
* VLC condiments, seasoning
* VLC beverages
* ANY other necessary supplements or additions you need

Wow

>>> To get any points you must have only what's Allowed. <<< Wow

If you have something not allowed you are out for the day, you get zero points.

If you water fast for the entire day, you get 1 point. This is NOT to encourage starvation practices.

Set your own personal daily goal and give yourself a point for the day if you stick to what you want to eat to be healthy on your chosen way of carnivorous eating.

Have fun and work on changing your eating habits for the better! Cool

jeff · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:11 am Post subject:

I like the new rules. It's based more on following what is (hopefully) right for YOU, and not just somewhat arbitrary rules that may or may not be right for everybody.
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Kristelle · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject:

Cool...I'm in. Happy

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Jude · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:27 am Post subject:

If you'll forgive me for messing up bigtime on the April contest....I think I can manage this one mo betta....

Oops

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Rich · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:10 am Post subject:

I can do this one as well.

Kim · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject:

I'm in as well. I have just been doing terribly the last couple of months. And welcome back Dean!

Kim

Dean · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:17 am Post subject:

Thanks, Kim. Nice to see you back as well. Cool

Question.

Do you guys wanna do a 5 point scale rating deal or just do a 1 or 0 point thing if you eat on plan or not?

Please let me know.

Thanks.

Sunny

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Kim · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:00 am Post subject:

I like the 5 point plan but am open to anything.

Kim

Kristelle · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject:

Same here.
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Dean · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject:

Kristelle, are you saying "same here" to the 5 point scale or to being open to anything or both? LOL

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jeff · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject:

Kristelle · Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject:

Dean · Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject:

OK, Kristelle. I guess the 5 point scale sounds right for this one. Yup

BTW, sounds like you and Kim should visit the back of the Bus more often. Devil

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Dean · Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject:

Not that this is really necessary for this Contest, but, I'm gonna post the current eating plan I've fallen into over the last couple weeks (minus some junk I'm no longer doing Roll Eyes

). This plan seems to be working really well for me, and I'm wanting to stick to it for June, since I think it is the best for me at this time. After going through three and a half months of Contests where I experimented on eliminating various non-animal foods, I became very aware of those toxic treats I could tolerate and at what levels I could handle them. Despite some widespread wartime rumors to the contrary, that was the real purpose of those Contests, so I'm glad I got so much useful feedback from them.

Feel free to post what you plan to stick to for June, if you are so inclined.

I'm still gonna get some raw eggs/meat and organs into my diet, as well as IF on a regular basis, which works so well for me and really makes me feel great. I'll be shooting for these items in June:

Allowed

* any part of any animal (including processed meat)

The only processed meat I'm allowing is pepperoni and Canadian bacon in pizza omelets. Besides that, I prefer clean cuts of meat, especially very fatty stuff. I'm hopelessly addicted to ground beef at this time. Read on to figure out why. Grin

* eggs

I'm even back to deviled eggs. Heart

eggs so much.

* VLC dairy

I hope I can become a shareholder of jeff's company, since I've brought back some cow pus. I know I need to limit it, and, therefore have incorporated the methods to do just that into my WOE.

butter - only on/in foods. no more straight eating it for "snacks".

cream - only in coffee. yah, java is back in small amounts, as usual. no more drinking cream, though, like eggnog.

cheese - only on burgers and fried eggs and in omelets, including my pizza omelets. this will really help me limit the amount.

This amount of dairy seems to be working great for me. I had to figure out a way to limit the amount is all. I know this is gonna work great to do just that. Anyway, I hope the WI legislature takes all this into consideration. Wink

* VLC vegetation

The only vegetation I want in my diet are mushies, and only on burgers and steaks, and in omelets or beef roast/stew. Although, lately, some magic mushrooms sure would have hit the spot. Wow

I will also use black olives in my pizza omelets. That's it. This is really just garnishes for flavor, as Bear said. Fruits and veggies are not necessary for me. I'd rather put my toxic treat allowance on other items. It's really all about keeping toxic treats to a reasonable level. Just enough for mental sanity, but, not enough to jeopardize physical health. Also, there are those who may feel that certain non-animal foods may be beneficial to consume, for medicinal or supplemental purposes or otherwise. Finding that balance is the real trick to Carnivore eating. I envy those who can get away with no non-animal foods, but, I realize most people cannot do that. That does not mean that we should simply dismiss this WOE as undoable. It is very doable. Just takes some work to figure it out is all.

* olive/nut oil

Don't need any of this stuff. I'm so glad I gave up the coconut. It's nothing I really wanted. Was just trying to figure out what toxic treats I could and could not live without. Nuts are certainly not anything I need. I'll get my high fat ratios from animal foods, including some dairy, but, mostly fatty cuts of meat.

* VLC condiments, seasoning

For me, Bear, and I'd suspect a whole bunch of people, this seems to be the cornerstone to keeping carnivorous. I've brought back a few condiments lately, and I'm lovin' it.

mayo - only on fried eggs, burgers, and fish/fowl or in deviled eggs.

yellow mustard - only in deviled eggs.

spicy brown mustard - only on burgers.

bbq sauce - only on burgers and beef ribs.

red hot sauce - cut with butter for chicken hot wings or on pork.

Chinese vinegars/oils - for dipping pork belly into.

That's about it for condiments. It's just a way to spice up meat and eggs. I have not had a problem with any of it. No bad chemical reactions at all from any condiments or seasoning. I feel sorry for those who do have those reactions. I don't think I could handle eating such plain tasting food.

* VLC beverages

coffee - don't drink much java at all. never did. found that I really didn't need it so much as a pick up, but, more as a treat. and, with cream, it's just that. Heart

wine - after going a long time without it, it was nice to bring this back into my life. to quote one of our carnivore comrades, us monkeys like to get stoned. Yup

Here's to Monk E on his undercover mission to the wasteland. Wink

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jeff · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:50 am Post subject:

That sounds great, Dean, and is very similar to the WOE that I have fallen into over the past couple of years. I do a little more cheese than you, and surely more coffee....but other than that, we are almost identical in our eating.

I'll see what I can do about letting you back into jeff's Dairy Company as a shareholder. Wink

I'll have to run it by the board of directors.

I'm curious.....have you experienced that famous "dairy bloat" since adding back cheese and cream?
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jeff · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:52 am Post subject:

jeff · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:55 am Post subject:

Dean · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:00 am Post subject:

Yah, Bob, I thought it was just in the back of the Bus that this happened, but, it seems that there is just no escaping it. LOL

jeff · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:12 am Post subject:

Dean · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:18 am Post subject:

Yah, dairy is definitely one of those things you have to experiment with. Sorta like an adolescent experiments with hallucinogens. Wink

I remember doing waaayyy too much at once on more than one occasion. LOL

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
- Jimi Hendrix

Every day you'll see the dust
Never get off the Bus!

jeff · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:28 am Post subject:

Dean · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:26 am Post subject:

Oh, I'm not saying it was bad. Just saying it was quite the long strange trip. Grin

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
- Jimi Hendrix

Every day you'll see the dust
Never get off the Bus!

Nicola · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:55 am Post subject:

Are you both needing salt - not for taste (Bear); to digest protein and fat (stomach acid) or cramps...Would / could you eat cheese with out salt...

You are all talking about "needing" this and that; a lot of it is to keep you "happy". We need salt to live; Bear and many others say that meat has it's natural salt - some add and others say it is toxic.

Nicola

jeff · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject:

Kristelle · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject:

No leg cramps but adding iodized salt definetly helps with energy. More in my NEW journal...
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Dean · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:41 am Post subject:

Yah, I've been using iodized sea salt for some time now, and the dizziness and leg cramps have subsided. I think the small amount I do is fine. Yup

And, yes, I seem to "need" certain foods to help keep me "happy". Grin

All part of being an acculturated carnivore, I suppose. LOL

Of course, coffee and wine, along with Kool-Aid and "other things" at the back of the Bus, seem to help out as well. Devil

Here today, gone tomorrow. Wink

Remember what the dormouse said. Cool

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
- Jimi Hendrix

Every day you'll see the dust
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jeff · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject:

Feed your head. Wink

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Jessica · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject:

I was having problems as I like salt but felt it was keeping my blood pressure up. I switched to sea salt (french gray) and it is really good, supposedly has a ton of minerals, and my blood pressure has been going down since I started using it.

Jessica
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Jessica · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject:

OH... we're starting tomorrow, aren't we? Shock

I'm in. I'll have to reread the rules. They seem pretty easy enough. Grin

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Kristelle · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:45 am Post subject:

Are VLC fruits like tomatoes or sweet peppers allowed? What about a little lemon?
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Dean · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:47 am Post subject:

Any VLC vegetation is allowed.

And, if there is anything else that people think should be added, please speak up!

This is about doing your own personal take on carnivore eating.

Sunny

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
- Jimi Hendrix

Every day you'll see the dust
Never get off the Bus!

Dean · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:06 am Post subject:

June Carnivore Contest
Dean........0
jeff...........0
Jessica.....0
Jude.........0
Kim..........0
Kristi31....0
Rich..........0

If we get another person (or lose one Sad

), we can divide up into teams. Cool

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
- Jimi Hendrix

Every day you'll see the dust
Never get off the Bus!