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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Karen's Figuring Out What the Hell is Stalling Me Experiment Reply with quote

I'm going to start with meat, salt free dry seasoning, and water - hopefully keeping this up for more than 2 weeks before adding in various other food/drinks and see what happens with each.  At some point I will probably vary the calories.  At some point, I may decide to do CKD with fruit and veggies but not right away.

I'm shooting for 1500-1700 cals per day, with 70% or more fat.

I cook my beef to med rare, pork & chicken well done, and haven't had much luck getting more rare than that without inducing nausea while eating.  Maybe that will get easier.  I am starting with no supplements, but will add them in eventually to see if there is any effect from the supplements.

I'll be posting my food each day.

Please share any advice or ideas you might have.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good to me, Karen.  Just make sure you keep well hydrated.  This type of WOE contributes to water retention loss.  Keep swilling the water!! Wink  LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might also find that after two weeks, you don't want to add anything else in. Just hope you don't feel like you have to, if you get to that point.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that adding in butter after a few weeks helped me to get my fat ratios up. You have no idea how much I missed the butter. Just ask Heather! Devil
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How could I forget about the butter?!?  I will also be eating butter  Yup  Yup  Yup
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How could I forget about the butter?!?

The more time you spend at the back of the Bus, the harder it is to forget about. Devil
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How could I forget about the butter?!?

The more time you spend at the back of the Bus, the harder it is to forget about. Devil


Hmmmn... I don't believe I've been invited to any butter festivities at the back of the bus yet.  I'll just have to use my imagination  Devil
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if I should count today as day one, because I had coffee.  But what the hell, I'll post my food anyways:

8 oz coffee black - 8am
36 oz water (and still working on it) throughout the day
6 oz chuck steak no seasoning - noon
2 1/4 lb ground beef patties with Mrs. Dash - 5:30pm
3 oz chuck steak - 7:30pm
2 tbs butter - used about 4tbs to cook all the meat, drizzled a little on top, but didn't lick my plate or the pan (spank me if you must), so I only counted 2tbs.

Daily Plate shows this as 1560 calories, 123g fat (73%), 102g (27%) protein.

I tried to get another 3 oz chuck steak down at 7:30, but started to gag and took that as a good sign to stop.  

Please, I need some more feedback on keeping calories up vs. eating when hungry.  If I ate when hungry today, I would have not eaten the last portion of chuck steak, and stats would have been: 1301 calories, 105g fat (74%), 81g protein (26%)  Come to think of it, I probably wouldn't have had the second beef patty either, but I'm too tired to enter that in and see what it would have meant.

So should I push myself to get calories up, or just eat until full?  These two things don't seem to coincide naturally.  I can't believe how hard it is to eat that many calories of protein/fat.  I haven't been nauseated, but I'm not hungry.  At all.  

And I'm really tired.  Slept through my alarm clock this morning and was really tired/disoriented when I woke up.  Probaby a little induction flu after my last carb mishap.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Karen G wrote:
How could I forget about the butter?!?

The more time you spend at the back of the Bus, the harder it is to forget about. Devil


Hmmmn... I don't believe I've been invited to any butter festivities at the back of the bus yet.  I'll just have to use my imagination  Devil

At least until Heather lets you use her handcuffs. DevilWhip
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2 tbs butter - used about 4tbs to cook all the meat, drizzled a little on top, but didn't lick my plate or the pan (spank me if you must), so I only counted 2tbs.

Are you sure you haven't been to any butter festivities at the back of the Bus? Devil
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean wrote:
Karen G wrote:
Dean wrote:
Karen G wrote:
How could I forget about the butter?!?

The more time you spend at the back of the Bus, the harder it is to forget about. Devil


Hmmmn... I don't believe I've been invited to any butter festivities at the back of the bus yet.  I'll just have to use my imagination  Devil

At least until Heather lets you use her handcuffs. DevilWhip


Who says I don't have my own? Devil
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean wrote:
Karen G wrote:
2 tbs butter - used about 4tbs to cook all the meat, drizzled a little on top, but didn't lick my plate or the pan (spank me if you must), so I only counted 2tbs.

Are you sure you haven't been to any butter festivities at the back of the Bus? Devil


Well, not at the back of the bus, but...  Devil
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love a new member who comes with prior experience. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this thread were in the back of the bus, I'd tell you that I once heard that from a man, except he said experience with a member, not a member with experience.

But we're in the Ward, so I won't say that.  Wink  Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the overeating thing, after my last Ward experiment, I can totally relate. LOL

Maybe for the first week you could eat whatever you really feel like eating, and keep track of cals. Then, the next week, you could force more calories. Either way, if you are planning on keeping your fat ratios high (with lots of butter Devil) you shouldn't have a problem with getting in plenty of calories naturally.
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Karen G wrote:
If this thread were in the back of the bus, I'd tell you that I once heard that from a man, except he said experience with a member, not a member with experience.

But we're in the Ward, so I won't say that.  Wink  Wink

Apparently you haven't had the grand tour of all the various wings in here!

The rehabilitation ones are my personal favorites. DevilWhip
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't had the tour yet, are you the tour guide?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boot Babes are in charge of this place. Just ask AC! LOL
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Well someday I'm sure I'll stumble across the rehabilitation wing, and I'll just have to hope the Boot Babes will let me check it out.  Yup
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Considering all your experience, I'm sure they'll wanna recruit you. Devil
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean wrote:
On the overeating thing, after my last Ward experiment, I can totally relate. LOL

Maybe for the first week you could eat whatever you really feel like eating, and keep track of cals. Then, the next week, you could force more calories. Either way, if you are planning on keeping your fat ratios high (with lots of butter Devil) you shouldn't have a problem with getting in plenty of calories naturally.


I agree with Dean, just eat what you feel like. If you feel like you're going through induction from vlc to nc then you will definitely lose your appetite. It'll come back naturally, just wait for it.


.... Cool you guys are naughty!! LOL
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, this is going to make today easier.  I'm just going to eat to appetite through next Friday, track my calories, and see where that leaves me.

I'm down to 185.3 this am, from 186.4 yesterday. Ecstatic It's just water, but hey, I'll take whatever I can get.  I can see the difference in my ankles, they are much less puffy this morning.  I also slept for 11 hours.  I don't know where I got the idea, but I think that sleeping more helps with weight loss.  Maybe that's just one of my many excuses to sleep late on weekends. Happy
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.. thought I'd drop by to join in some NAUGHTY stuff, Karen!   LOL

Congrats on your overnight whoosh!!  Thumbs Up  I lost 5 lbs this week.. hoping for more soon and thinking about more drastic measures!

All this talking about BUTTER is getting ME in the butter mood!  I love to lick Butter... especially off my plate and the pan too!  Hmmm.... I wonder if there are any single men out there who have the same fettish??!!  Maybe we could have a garlic butter body feast!  Devil Whip Devil
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KATHYINTX wrote:
I lost 5 lbs this week..


You go girl!  Cheer  Cheer  Cheer

KATHYINTX wrote:
.. thought I'd drop by to join in some NAUGHTY stuff

I love to lick Butter... especially off my plate and the pan too!  Hmmm.... I wonder if there are any single men out there who have the same fettish??!!  Maybe we could have a garlic butter body feast!


I would call that quite the contribution...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woo Hoo...lots of losing going on...congrats!!

y0u know what they say..."It's better with butter"....and I mean EVERYTHING. Devil
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, y0u.  You're right about the butter!  Whip
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Another day down.  I almost popped a piece of sf gum in my mouth when I went to the gym tonight out of habit.  Almost.  Whatever.  It's a shame, since my trainer's so hot and all, but I pay him hard earned money to smell both my sweat and my keto-breath, right? Yup

And... I had to put up with my kids making brownies here. Mad I wanted to tell them no, but they rarely want to do anything together, so I let them.  I kept opening the back door to get rid of the smell.  Lol - they kept bitching about the cold; I kept bitching about the smell.  The brownies are covered and heading to x's house tomorrow. Happy I don't need that crap in the house.  

I probably over ate when I got home, but now there is no chance of eating one of those damn brownies.

Here's what I ate today:

Water - 60oz and still going
Ribeye with Mrs Dash seasoning - 6.5oz 12:30pm
Pork Restaurant Steaks with Chipotle Chili seasoning - 10.5oz Inhaled at 8:30pm so as to avoid brownies.
Butter - 2tbs. with meat

Again, I didn't lick my plate, so I recorded 1/2 the butter I used to cook.  Spankings in order once again. Devil  

I don't know what pork restaurant steaks are made from, but they look like ground pork patties, so that's what I put into daily plate.  I think they could have been pork steak run through the tenderizer, but there was no one there to ask.  They were very fatty and very delicious.  

Here's my stats for today:

Food: Calories 1397 Fat 114g (75%) Protein 86g (25%) Carbs 0g

Exercise: (keep in mind that I am totally out of shape here) 15 min treadmill 2.7 mph with 2% incline while waiting for my hot trainer who was hung up at work.  10 min intervals on the recumbent bike, 35 minutes lifting weights & doing squats - total 60 minutes of getting my ass kicked.  Literally.  My ass felt as if it was on fire for 15 minutes after I left today.  Shock
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You're doing great, Karen.  You don't like the butter off your plate?  Shock   That's unimaginable to me.  LOL

For the time being, don't worry about the calories.  Just let them fall where they may.  Eat only when hungry, and eat until you are full.
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You're doing great, Karen.  You don't like the butter off your plate?  Shock   That's unimaginable to me.  LOL

For the time being, don't worry about the calories.  Just let them fall where they may.  Eat only when hungry, and eat until you are full.


Don't worry, Jeff, I love butter, especially the melted variety.  I'm just full at that point.
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Dean wrote:
Considering all your experience, I'm sure they'll wanna recruit you. Devil


Where do I apply?
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jeff wrote:
You're doing great, Karen.  You don't like the butter off your plate?  Shock   That's unimaginable to me.  LOL

For the time being, don't worry about the calories.  Just let them fall where they may.  Eat only when hungry, and eat until you are full.


Don't worry, Jeff, I love butter, especially the melted variety.  I'm just full at that point.


Whew, ok.  I was afraid we may have to pull your cheesehead credentials.  LOL
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Karen just needs to practice licking butter off of some other things. Wink

And I know just the place where she can learn these skills. DevilWhip
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Dean wrote:
Karen just needs to practice licking butter off of some other things. Wink

And I know just the place where she can learn these skills. DevilWhip


Yeah, I can think of a few places more interesting to lick butter from than a plate.
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Dean wrote:
Karen just needs to practice licking butter off of some other things. Wink

And I know just the place where she can learn these skills. DevilWhip


I do need to get my fat up today...
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Day three.  Or is it day two?  I had a cup of coffee on the first day, but that didn't seem to make any difference, so I'll call this day three.

Food today:

Water throughout the day
6 oz chuck roast with salt-free garlic herb seasoning (yes, Dean, I rub meat, too) - 1pm
8 oz pork rib - 5pm
Butter - 2tbs

Stats: 1656 calories 111g fat (62%) 154g protein (38%) 0g carbs

Total weight lost so far: 2.4lbs  Excellent

I was eating dinner at my mom's, so I didn't have access to the pan to lick the pork drippings; however, I did pour some over the chuck roast, hence the butter count.  And this time, I kept my portion smaller so I could lick the plate, too.  Shock

Tonight I feel like it's getting a little easier to stick to this, but I still have a bit of a craving for a couple soft egg yolks over a nice piece of salmon.  
And I still have other unsatisfied cravings, but that's another story... Devil
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Yes, with all the sex food talk on this board, sometimes it's hard not to get cravings. Wink
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Yes, with all the sex food talk on this board, sometimes it's hard not to get cravings. Wink


This has been going on since before I got to this board. Shock  But no experiment needed, I already know the solution.  Either y0u's Meat man or cheesecake would do me wonders. Wink  Whip
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This has been going on since before I got to this board. Shock  But no experiment needed, I already know the solution.  Either y0u's Meat man or cheesecake would do me wonders. Wink  Whip


Karen G, I believe in sharing..sharing is caring...Paleoman is available too if Dean is done with him.  Last I heard he was showing him a pack of meat twinkies. Shock
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Karen G, I believe in sharing..sharing is caring...Paleoman is available too if Dean is done with him.  Last I heard he was showing him a pack of meat twinkies. Shock


Aww, thanks! I hope there's a meat twinkie left for me. Wow
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

182.6 this am.   Shock
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karen G wrote:
182.6 this am.   Shock


What were you at last time you weighed?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weight taken in am:

Day 1 - 186.4
Day 2 - 185.3
Day 3 - 184.0
Day 4 - 182.6

Probably all water so far. Dunno
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mostly water.  Maybe a pound or so fo fat.  Either way, good job.  Keep it up.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say take what y0u can get and run with it....Good job!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

y0u wrote:
I say take what y0u can get and run with it....Good job!


Y0u said it!

Get It While You Can
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karen, the link didn't work for me.   Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Karen, the link didn't work for me.   Sad


Try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju9yFA1S7K8

That's what I get for trying to figure out how to rename the url.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep!!!  Get it while you can, baby!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Ode to Coffee

My lover, my sinful drink...
You're tastier than one might think.
You're rich and creamy,
Hot and steamy,
But I'll have to pour you down the sink.

How I miss your stimulant rush,
With cream and crushed ice in a slush.
Your flavor divine
Your scent, so fine
But I'll have to give you a flush.

Don't fret, my caffeinated friend,
We may, someday, meet again.
Only time will tell
If I handle you well.
If so, I'll have a cup or ten.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Day 4:

8 oz ground beef patties with salt free garlic herb seasoning- 10am
6 oz chuck roast with salt free garlic herb seasoning - 3:30pm
Water throughout the day
Butter - 2tbs. to cook meat
No coffee Cry

Calories 1282 Fat 99g (71%) Protein 91g (29%) Carbs 0g

Total weight lost: 3.8lbs



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