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Shane · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: Losing Body Fat

Hey Guys,

Glad to be a member of the community.I've been reading a bit about a carnivorous diet and finally decided to start with it.So far all good and ive managed to have fine energy levels with 2 meals.Originally i was going to go paleo with vegetables and fruit but after reading a bit more i think carnivore is the way to go.

But onto my actual question.Im currently 16,5'11'',187lb,12.5lb and my current goal is to reduce my body fat into the 6-7% range.I do martial arts 2-3 hours 5 days a week and tabata sprinting every day.

Now I was basically wondering would a carnivorous 0 carb diet help me to achieve my goal and stay there.And if so does anyone have any suggestions as to the best ways to do it and optimal meals?

I plan to stick with the diet for life as long as it seems to be having a positive effect on me and not causing too many problems.I'd be very grateful for any help. My current measurements are:
neck:16
chest:43
Bicep:15
forearm:12
Wrist:7
ribcage:39
abdomen:36
waist:35
hips:41
thigh:25
calf:16

Ill try and get a picture to put up soon.
Thanks in advance. Happy

jeff · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject:

Shane, energy should not be a problem. For many there is a transition period, where the body adapts to using fat and ketones for energy. Things are usually fine within a 2-3 week period. I transitioned very smoothly, and never experienced a lack of energy.

Eating zero carb should get you down to 10-12% body fat Just eat meat and drink water. Eat as much as you feel like. Eat when hungry, don't eat when not hungry. If you want to get to mid-single digits, that will most likely requre some calorie restriction, but I wouldn't worry about that until you reach that point.

Good luck!
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Shane · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject:

So during the transition period should i eat a bit less fat because i don't want to be storing any?

jeff · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject:

Shane · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:06 pm Post subject:

Ok well today i had a chuck eye steak,now the only problem is with the fat.I really cant eat it.I thinks its jst the texture makes me feel sick so is there any alternative ways of eating it?eg.cooking it longer or should i resort to drinking cups of melted butter..or is it really that important?

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jeff · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject:

You could cook the fat longer, if that helps. It certainly won't hurt anything. As long as you're eating fairly fatty meat, you really don't need to add extra fat, such as butter. Maybe you could look for some well marbled meat that doesn't have much fat around the edges. That way you're still getting the fat. It's just not so noticeable when you eat it.

How is your energy so far?
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Dean · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject:

Shane · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the advice.My energy levels are great at the moment.Just got back from a 3 hour workout and feel good.Would having scrambled egg with no milk just butter be ok or would it have a bad effect.And yeah savage that sounds pretty fun,I'll definitly join in on that

jeff · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject:

Eggs with butter are fine. Dig in! If your energy is good, then you will probably have an easy transition, much like I did. I felt great the whole time and never had a problem with "induction flu" or a lack of energy. It sounds like you're well on your way, Shane.
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Shane · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject:

thanks,btw what would be the cheapest meat to get?? I dont have much money as im 16 so my dad buys the food in my house and he wont give me too much for this as he believes im being an idiot and i'm gonna end up malnourished.

jeff · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject:

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Shane · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject:

I seem to have hit a snag.I checked my body fat levels today and theyve dropped to 12.4% from 12.5%.However ive lost 2.2KG of lean mass!!Please tell me this is temporary.

jeff · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject:

Shane · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject:

oh right,i was scared that i just shedded 4 pounds of muscle!At the moment i'm consuming 1500-2000 calories out of a base calorie requirement of 2600.I'm also excercising 2 and a half hours to 3 hours a day.That 1500 calories is keeping me going amazingly well,normally when i train id need at least 3000 or id feel tired.Now would you be able to estimate,how long should it take be to purn off 10 pounds of fat?That should supposedly bring by bf% to about 6%.I'd like to try and lose a bit of that before June if possible as i'd quite like an eight pack etc for the summer.My abs are quite large yet at 12% i can still only see the upper 2 compared to many people i know who have much less muscle and 13-14% fat with everything visible.Any idea why that could be?

jeff · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject:

It's impossible to predict rate of weight loss. As much as people like to think there is, there is no formula that you can plug numbers into and get an answer. I've seen people lose fat on 5,000 calories per day with no exercise, and I've seen people not lose on 1,200 calories per day with daily exercise.

Having said all that, losing 1-3 pounds per week is uaually a reasonable expectation. However, people that don't have much to lose often lose more slowly. But the fact that you can exercise two and a half to three hours per day on only 1500 calories probably means that your body has easy access to your fat stores. This is because your insulin levels are low. When insulin is high, fat is trapped. You'll probably know within a couple of weeks how your weight loss will go.

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