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Dean

Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 5143 Born: 3 January 2010 Gender: Male
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: Tallow / Lard |
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Rendering beef or pig fat is a wonderful way to add a heavenly smell to any kitchen!
Tallow and lard can (and should) replace all cooking oil, IMHO.
I get whatever beef "trimmings" from the grocery store for FREE! Once you get them, you have to cut them into chunks (about the size of dice). While doing this slicing of this fat, you must remove any meat that is present. Unless you are quite lucky, usually almost half of the fat will have to be "discarded", cuz it will have a lot of meat attached. You want as pure a fat as you can get to render. Of course, if you have any four legged furry friends, you won't have to worry about this wonderful stuff going to waste, since you can feed it to them!
Once you get your mound of dice-sized fat chunks, you can put the whole lot into a large pot (about half full max) and set it on the stove top (uncovered). You want to turn the heat as absolutely low as you can. This fat is going to take several hours to render completely down to liquid gold! And, you will need to stir (with a wooden spoon), this pot of melting fat quite often (about every 30 min).
Once you have a nice pot of liquid gold, you can then strain the cracklin's out using a strainer. Then, you will want to use cheese cloth to further purify this stuff, and pour it into mason jars for storage. Seal well, and wait to cool. Keep one in the cupboard to use, and the rest should go into the freezer. This tallow will keep for a LONG time. You will most certainly use it up before it has a chance to go bad. Even the one in the cupboard should keep for a couple months. When this fat was rendered, the water was rendered ("steamed") out of it, which leaves the fat in a state where it is preserved.
The tallow in the cupboard (at room temp) is going to resemble candle wax and the lard will resemble Crisco. There is nothing better to cook with. It will take really high heat, and nothing will stick to your pans. It will not taint the taste of food, and the saturated fat of beef or pork can't be beat! In fact, you NEED this fat! The RDA is "over the top" for this nutrient dense food! 
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Dean

Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 5143 Born: 3 January 2010 Gender: Male
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Liquid Gold
Solid White
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~mina~
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| ty for posting this, it looks lovely. |
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Vesna

Location: Madison, WI Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 116 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Are those jars the same -- liquid gold cools into pure white?
What should I ask for at the grocery? "Beef trimmings"? "Fat trimmings"? I suppose I should go directly to the manager of the meat department. Is that what you would suggest?
My dictionary says suet is "the hard white fat on the kidneys and loins of cattle, sheep, and other animals, used to make foods including puddings, pastry, and mincemeat."
It says tallow is "a hard fatty substance made from rendered animal fat, used in making candles and soap."
Does that mean that tallow can be made from suet, but also from any of the rest of the fat?
How would you compare tallow and lard in cooking? Would you say tallow is most like leaf lard? Or...?
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Manaloa

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 398 Born: 13 August 1976 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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I ask for suet and they'll give me any kind of beef fat, not just from around the organ meat. They even grind it for me, so that I don't have to chop it to little bits. Oh, and yeah, ask for the manager, especially if you have a young person trying to help you out. Some of them have never even heard the word suet.
I find tallow to be heavier? than lard. I find lard to be softer when cold than tallow. Does that make sense? Sometimes I really have to dig to get my tallow out of my jars when it's cold. _________________ Manaloa |
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Dean

Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 5143 Born: 3 January 2010 Gender: Male
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: |
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What Tina said.
I can get beef fat or pig fat (from all places of the animal) from a huge meat processing place just a couple miles north (in the middle of the city). They sell it for $0.99/lb. I can also get the beef fat (not sure about pig) from the meat department at my 24 hour grocery store 2 blocks south of me. They give it to me for free. They throw away two 50-gallon barrels of the stuff every week.
Yes, when you render the fat, it is that liquid gold. The pic of the solid white is the beef tallow in the same jars the next morning. As Tina said, the lard is softer and sorta off white, while the tallow is harder, and whiter, and is very much like candles. You could probably put a wick in the jar, and you could burn this stuff like a candle. But, I'd rather use it for cooking.
Both turn to nice liquid gold and make wonderful oil to cook anything in. I've even added it to food like roast when reheating, or thrown it in the crock while cooking a roast. I use a ton of lard, tallow, and butter. That is the ONLY fat I am using. That and the turkey/duck/chicken fat I save when roasting one of these birds, to add back when reheating the meat.
HTH
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Manaloa

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, and the whole house smells wonderful while it's rendering. _________________ Manaloa |
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Vesna

Location: Madison, WI Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 116 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm amazed at all this! I wonder if I could get stuff from the Oscar Mayer headquarters two miles south of me. Or if it would be too locked down and formal. |
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jeff

Location: Milton, Wisconsin, USA Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 6067 Born: 10 March 1960 Gender: Male
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Vesna wrote: | | I'm amazed at all this! I wonder if I could get stuff from the Oscar Mayer headquarters two miles south of me. Or if it would be too locked down and formal. |
It wouldn't hurt to ask, but you might have better luck with a small neigborhood place.
My mother in law used to work at the Oscar Meyer plant in the microwave dept. Small world. _________________ Eat, Drink and Be Merry, For Tomorrow We'll Die |
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jem51
Location: south central OR Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 183 Born: 3 October 1951 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| suet is nothing but beef fat. somehow the birds seem to like it better if it's called suet. must be something in the translation. |
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Red
Location: Canada Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 413 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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If you like beef tallow, you should try lamb tallow! Yum city. So delicious. _________________ Red |
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Heather

Location: near Edmonton Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 1762 Born: 12 October 2010 Gender: Female
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| Red wrote: | If you like beef tallow, you should try lamb tallow! Yum city. So delicious. |
I never thought of lamb tallow but I really enjoy eating the fatty lamb. _________________
Heather |
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wifezilla

Location: Colorado Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 240 Born: 7 September 1963 Gender: Female
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: |
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I already posted this on my challenge thread, but FYI...
I went to the Safeway butcher counter and said "Who do I talk to about getting some beef or pork trimmings?" Turns out they were out, but I got all the info I needed. They charge 99˘/pound. Plenty of demand so they don't give it away. They are reserving some for me and I am heading back over after work.
I will use that handy phrase at other stores and find out what their policy is. That way I am not initially mentioning any price...so if they are inclined to give it away, I wont be giving them ideas :D _________________ http://wifezillasway.blogspot.com/ |
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Vesna

Location: Madison, WI Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 116 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Dean is right, tallow is wonderful for cooking!
I haven't actually rendered it from trimmings like he says (yet). But when I made beef stock from bones, a couple of cups of fat floated to the top and were easy to break off and store separately after refrigeration. Really heavenly. I added it to cooked beef dishes and it helped repair the woeful leanness we get in supermarket cuts these days. |
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jem51
Location: south central OR Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 183 Born: 3 October 1951 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| don't think just doing large rendering projects only. i render every little extra piece of fat. i love chicken fat the most. i cook a whole chiken every week and before i put it in the crock pot i pull out those two wads of fat on either side of the opening...put 'em in a small pan on low heat, cover and let em cook. in about 20-30 min i have about half cup of fat and a couple little crispies, yum. i use that fat over the next couple days or so. i do the same if i have a beef cut w excess or any other meat. if it's more than i can eat w the meat, i cut it off and render it. vesna, the thing i discovered about taking off the fat on top of stock, etc, is that is goes bad....unlike rendered. i suppose it's not the fat itself but the juice left on board. i have learned to keep that type of tallow in the freezer and break it off as needed. |
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Vesna

Location: Madison, WI Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 116 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the tips, Jem! Good thing I've been keeping it in the fridge and using up within a week or so.
The chicken thing sounds delish. |
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Dean

Location: Flyover Zone Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 5143 Born: 3 January 2010 Gender: Male
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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The reason for the long rendering sessions, is to render out all the moisture, which in turn leaves very pure fat, free of critters that break things down, thereby spoiling the fat. Straining it through lots of cheese cloth also helps preserve it. It will keep pretty much forever after all this. Of course, as jem said, getting fats off of other things as you go is a great thing to do.
Every time I do chicken or turkey, I save all the fat drippings in another container, then add some back when reheating the meat. As Vesna said, it makes the meat so nice and tender. It is no coincidence that we prefer it like this. Our bodies wanna make sure that animal fat is high, knowing how bad high protein will be for us. We already figured that one out a few million years ago.  _________________ When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
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Vesna

Location: Madison, WI Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 116 Gender: Female
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| Dean wrote: | | It is no coincidence that we prefer it like this. |
Yes!
I have a theory that the crazy, harmful nutritional ideas that are mainstream today result in large part from a cultural mistrust of anything that feels reeeeeally good.
And that it's no coincidence that the fruitcakes (Kellogg, Post, et al) who pushed cold grain breakfasts on the US in the 19th century also thought that sex was better less enjoyed rather than more.
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