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Dave's Magic Bus ride of irreverent Carb splattery!

Hey all!

Hey guys! I wasn't sure if I wanted to start yet another journal. How many forums am I on? LOL

Hey if I wasn't on forums during work hours - I would have to do some actual work - dammit!

25th of July 2005 I successfully started non-stop Atkins after 4-5 years of 'trying'. My start weight was in excess of 473 pounds (215 kilos). In fact it was porbably closer to 500 pounds. In Australia scales that go up that far, are few are far between. I know I was over 215 kilos, because previously in Jan that year I rejoined Weight Watchers for the millionth time, go on the scale. The lady said - sorry our scale only goes up to 215 kilos, but I rekon you are just over it, loose some weight and come back next week. So I did and I weighed 213 kilos. Well of course I never went back because I was always starving.

It was 4-5 months before I found a scale to weight myself to see the progress.

I've pretty much been lowish carbs all the time. It's gone over a year and I've managed to lose 130 pounds without exercise of calorie counting.

Now I am experiencing what everyone else does, and having watch that I don't overeat (calorie excess) and trying to exercise (much easier now).

Look, I've always been fat from age of 7 - so I have a lot of issues with people's intolerance to the overweight. Picture a picked-on little child that suddenly has a 343 pound 6foot3 inch body. he he I don't take shit from anyone in the real world (only online). But I'm like one of those gentle giant guys.

I've always had negative self esteem, and that doesn't matter whether you are 20 pounds overweight or 200 pounds. I still felt that same negative self esteem. Just as I loose weight I have more fun, and feel more hope.

I have a fiancee who I love, and I'm looking to marry when I get slim enough. First I conquer the weight. We have been together for 7 years. She's 5 foot 11 slim and blonde.

So when we would go out when I was 473 pounds, without fail the ticket booth people would always ask "Are you two together?"

Well I'm glad to say that has sort of stopped.

Now I just look like one of those fat bouncers. In fact I kinda feel funny when I go to a club and I am bigger than the bouncer. Mostly fat - and I'm totally unfit - but I can do good sumo because I have short legs ! LOL

Wow what a ramble!
Heather

Great to hear about you, how old are you if you don't mind me asking? Nevermind, I see it, slightly younger than I am. Yup
Dave

Sadly I am at the old age of 30 Cry
Alisa

BTW, I love your new avatar. Very handsome!

Dave

LOL - thanks...... I tried to get the angle that looked the least fat! LOL
Alisa

LC_Dave wrote:
LOL - thanks...... I tried to get the angle that looked the least fat! LOL


No need to be modest, you really do look good! Yup
jeff

Welcome Dave!! Glad you found your way over. Have fun!
Jessica

Dave, you look great and have come a long way! Keep up the great work!!!

Jessica
Susanne

I like your new pic - you look GREAT! Thank you for your story...I agree that being overweight is tough on the old self esteem, no matter how overweight I am (or not). I am very intolerant of people who treat me differently as I get smaller - I'm still the same damn person, just smaller!

And, welcome to da Bus!!!!!!!!!!! Devil
Dean

Dave,

It is SO GOOD to have you here!

I was really beginning to miss your posts.

You are one funny guy! Happy

Thanks for gettin' on the bus! Sunny
Heather

Dave wrote:
LOL - thanks...... I tried to get the angle that looked the least fat! LOL

You really do look good. Happy
Suzanne

Dave I think you're cute. You're also smart and nice. And I'm glad you're here! Welcome!
Karen

Dave wrote:
LOL - thanks...... I tried to get the angle that looked the least fat! LOL


LOL..so i am not the only one that does that when taking pics?? LOL

glad your here..your an inspiration!
Dave

Hey everyone - Thanks for welcome!

You know most class clowns use humour to divert their attention from their own personal hardships!

LOL - it's just so hard to take things seriously sometimes!

Sometimes when I'm out there in community groups or whatever, I wish I was more serious - but I usually end up taking the piss! LOL
Dave

I just had a shave too.

Damn beard was disgusting!
Jessica

Dave, is there a name for how you have your facial hair shaved? I noticed a lot of guys at work have that look. It's very nice on you!

I don't think a sense of humor is a bad thing... most people I know are lacking in it (but I work in engineering, too).

Jessica
Dave

tidalpool wrote:
Dave, is there a name for how you have your facial hair shaved? I noticed a lot of guys at work have that look. It's very nice on you!

I don't think a sense of humor is a bad thing... most people I know are lacking in it (but I work in engineering, too).

Jessica


I think it's just called a goatee beard.

I'm clean chaven now Happy
Karen

Yep..it is called a goatee!!

So Dave are you a total carnivore now..or are you still doing atkins induction for the most part? do you eat nuts, fruit?? just curious about everyone's woe's. You lost the majority of your weight on induction am i correct?? I am kinda lost right now. In 2003 i did atkins for a year and lost 81 lbs, then found out i was pregnant. So i went through the pregnancy and breastfeeding and all that and finally got back around to doing something in Feb of this year. I went back on atkins and stuck with if for about 3 and a half mos without a single cheat..then i started tweaking and tweaking and have been having a hard time since. I have lost about 40 lbs since Feb..but the last few months its pretty much losing and gaining and losing and gaining the SAME 12 lbs. lol. Right now i am TRYING to do paleo..but not too successfully..though i did lose 3 lbs this week!! i am considering going back to atkins but hubby is paleo now after losing 120 lbs..hes a few lbs from his goal weight and rides his bike 20 miles a day and eats about 10 pcs of fruit and a cup or more of nuts each day..lol...(and some meat and veg)..OOOPS..this is NOT MY journal..its yours..forgot there for a sec.. sorry for all the rambling..i forgot my point..lol LOL
Jessica

Ahhh... thanks for the info... I thought a goatee was just the stuff on the chin...

Jessica
Dave

Karen, if truth be told, I've lost most of my weight on OWL.

But it's been as low carb as I can get.

Sometimes I have strawberries and some nuts.

I have to stay away from bars! They stall me - but candy is tastey.

I don't see much difference in Paleo, and atkins, just that atkins restricts the carb foods until you lose the wieght, then atkins maintenance is pretty much paleo.

I tried meat and egg for two weeks - but I had some sleep issues going on, and I think that screwed around my system - thus interfering with my no carb.

Personally I prefer low carb. A lot tastier!
Dave

Alright peeps,

I won't be around for a week and a half, because I'm flying to Cairns to visit my family. Bonkers

So don't think I'm ignoring the board!
Suzanne

Have fun! We'll miss you terribly! I'll keep your seat warm for you! Cool
Karen

Darn..i wanted to do some more thread jacking..maybe i will just take over your journal while you are gone..you won't mind!! Devil
Alisa

Yeah, we miss you! Hurry back! Yup
Susanne

Steering the Bus towards Cairn..... LOL
Analog6

QUOTE: "I have a fiancee who I love, and I'm looking to marry when I get slim enough. First I conquer the weight. We have been together for 7 years. She's 5 foot 11 slim and blonde.

So when we would go out when I was 473 pounds, without fail the ticket booth people would always ask "Are you two together?"

HOW BLOODY RUDE! I just HATE it when peope judge you just because they imagine you must be fat because you eat to much, and are therefore a weak and indulgent person. Let them walk a mile in my shoes first!
Karen

Knock Knock!!

HELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOO!!!

Dave..umm..its been well over a week and a half!! lol

come back and journal dave..come on now!!

Sunny
Dave

Hi folks!

Is it me or is this magic bus a bit of a put put. Wink


LOL

I'm zero carbing it at the moment, so that is quite interesting how my body is reacting.
Susanne

Put put???
Dean

Dave wrote:
Is it me or is this magic bus a bit of a put put.   Wink

I don't know, Dave... you tell us! It could be you... LOL  

Here's a suggestion. How 'bout putting a link on your blog directing some passengers this way. That might help both you and the Bus... waddayathink? Wink  Cool
Analog6

Dean, that is a truly beautiful cat in your avatar! Sorry, dave, totally off topic!
Dean

Thanks! He is so sweet. His name is Klondike. Smile
Dave

Well today I've done something I've wanted to for a long time. I went 100% carnivore. I didn't even eat eggs.

I'm staying off eggs for now - I think I may have an intolerance issue.

No processed meats, no cured meats - meat straight from the butcher.

Let's see how long this experiment lasts!
jeff

Dave, I think you'll like how it makes you feel. I suspect you'll see good weight loss as well. Please keep us posted.
Steve

Dave,
You may be right about the food issue. I used to work in a cancer clinic and they would test their patients for food allergies.

What they found was quite remarkable. Those who ate basically the same thing daily,such as eggs,developed an allergy to eggs.

When they had these people rotate out their protein sources they could slowly reintroduce allergenic foods back into their diet.

Makes sense. We all know that you can live on meat alone,but would it benefit us to rotate protein and other food sources?

They even had them rotate their fish choices.

they had them "exchange" these foods over the course of 3 days ex.

day 1
Eggs,chicken, Beef

Day 2
turkey,Salmon,shellfish

Day 3
Cod,pork,protein powder.

and so on..

though I'm not quite sure how much levity this has, but they also said that this rotating gives one a better ratio of amino acids and a better "mix" of proteins.

There are times where I believe in the benefits on a mono diet,but can a variety of food makes us healthier?
Dave

Interesting idea Steve!

That's for the encouragement Jeff!

This morning I felt fantastic! I slept really well.

Can't wait to see how I go.
Susanne

I'm excited for you, Dave! Though I'm not doing pure carnivore at the moment, I sure like how GOOD I felt on it! Cool
Dave

Thanks Susanne,

I am on day 3.

It seems that it takes this long for things to really kick in. I'm losing more water.

And I feel the pangs of diahrea coming on, which signals the initial candida die-off.

I really think that candida has been badly affecting me - mood wise, cravings wise.

I know that this zero carb, no eggs or dairy, is really extreme, but I want to see how far I get.
Steve

Dave, let us know what you are eating for your planned meals..

time and what was eaten at each meal.
Dave

Breakfast:-

1/2 a rump steak seared in coconut oil (approx 7:45am)

Lunch - 4 big fat Pork rashers
fried in coconut oil (approx 12:40pm)

I'm at work - so I prolly won't eat until after 6pm.
Dean

Dave,

I'm so glad you are trying out the carnivore WOE! You will probably do really well on it. I started out just experimenting with it... and eliminating every other type of food I had around, until one day, I looked in my fridge and there was only meat and eggs in there! Shock

At the very least, you will be able to get your body functioning at it's peak. After going a long time eating only meat, you will find that the slip ups don't affect you as bad. I believe that it is because our intestines do best with only meat (raw would be the absolute best). I believe our whole system does best on that type of diet. So, what happens is we are starting to heal ourselves when we go on an "all meat fast"... sort of like an elimination diet. So, even if you return to eating other foods, you will at least be taking steps to heal yourself a little.

Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress.
Dave

http://lowcarbdave.blogspot.com/2...0/i-am-frankensteins-monster.html
Suzanne

Great blog Dave. I had asthma as a child, too, though not that bad. Heck I still have flareups. And yeah, steroids are evil. You feel great when taking them but they mess you up. And NOW the docs. know this.
Susanne

Dave...VERY interesting blog. I totally agree with you that doctors really don't do a lot to help our health and in fact do a LOT to damage it.

I took that 'intelligence' test. LOL What's scary is that I appear to be the exactly same kind of thinker you are. Wait...that's not scary. I'd say that puts us at the top of the 'food' chain...literally.
Alisa

Susanne wrote:
I took that 'intelligence' test. LOL What's scary is that I appear to be the exactly same kind of thinker you are. Wait...that's not scary. I'd say that puts us at the top of the 'food' chain...literally.


I took it too, and I'm the same type as Dave and Susanne! You know what they say about great minds...
Heather

I just posted something along these lines in Bawdy's journal. I don't trust doctor's and especially prescriptions and the drug companies. My mom and grandma are both nurses and I grew up on antibiotics. I don't know if that anything to do with my current health, but I just remember their thoughts of doctors and drugs being so wonderful.....
Dave

Thanks gals!

For the last two weeks I've been off my zero carb experiment.

I think the issue is that I listen too much to fools.

There are a lot of fools out there on various low carb boards. Except for this one, the zero cab one, and my own forum AusLowCarb.com.
http://www.auslowcarb.com/

I've busy supported fellow Aussies, and having them support me.

Even though I don't come around Magic Bus very often, I like the small respectful community that it is.

Zero carber forum can get flamey.

ALC - are just mainly jerks and a lot of South Beach people running down Dr Atkins and telling everyone that they are idiots if they are calorie couting.

ADBB - well Hmmm...... They have issues. Often times my posts get ignored there, but I think it's because I am male.

Every female thinks because I'm male I want to get in their pants. Okay maybe we do, but youknow if we are in committed relationships - we stop ourselves! LOL That's the truth about guys, they will look at a lot of women and somtimes think about sex. But they have good hearts and decided to honour their relationship vows - and some choose not to.

Okay - this is rambling. But the point is not every guy is a cheater.
Suzanne

Dave, quit listening to fools. Happy And the women on the bus are ok with the idea you want in our pants! We consider it a compliment! LOL Not that you ever even flirt with us, darn it all.
Wink
Gee, we all know you have a girl. I don't know what the ADBB board is but it sounds like they need to get over it.

Have a good day and just stop by when you can. We always keep a seat for you! Kiss
Susanne

I want to know what the ADBB is too so I can go lurk there and see what they are up to.

Thanks for the compliments on the board, Dave...we've worked hard to make it a friendly, nice place. Heart

And I'm with Suzanne...you could flirt with us just a teeny bit. We know you have a nice lady in your life, so nobody will be flying to Australia to bug you. Yup Unless you want us too.... LOL
kateryna

Hi Dave, nice to hear from you again, your insights and honest opinions are very refreshing. You're right about the various boards and I don't go anywhere but here (because everyone is so supportive), your blog, Dr. Eades, Regina Wiltshire's and Jimmy Moore's blogs. Sometimes I visit Anthony Colpo's but it's too exercise-centric for me.
Dave

Hey thanks y'all!

See I knew you guys were very cool and supportive!

ADBB = http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/

Yeah, they are very strict about sticking to the 2002 Atkins book! Wow
Alisa

Dave, I meant to ask you two things:

*What fruits do you eat (if any)?

*Did you follow the Atkins carb rungs?

I started back on Induction last week, and it's working like a charm. Why, oh, why did I stray? Bonkers
Dave

Alisa wrote:

I started back on Induction last week, and it's working like a charm. Why, oh, why did I stray? Bonkers


WOW - awesome! I am glad you did!

Strawberries and blueberries I have.

Rungs? Oh yeah those things.

What are rungs again :P

I am not really a maths and accounting guy LOL
Dean

Dave wrote:
See I knew you guys were very cool and supportive!

Dave,

I hope you are including yourself in the group "you guys".

Like they say in that Clash song: "You're on the Bus, and you're one of us!" Cool
Dave

LOL - yes too true!
Suzanne

Hello? Anyone there?
Dave

Hey guys and gals, who's it going?

It's seems the Active No carber has completely distructed - which is a shame.

I decided to close my low carb blog.

It was time to focus on me.

LOL
Susanne

No kidding??????????????? I never go there anymore...
Heather

Nice to see you Dave! Wink
Dean

Dave!

It is great to see you on the Bus! Yup
Dave

Well second day of zero carb for me.

I'm trying to get serious about weight loss.

I'm psyching myself up to get a regular walking routine happening.

It's a mental battle at moment. I am sur eto win though! Cool
Dean

OK, Dave!

In your honor... I've cut the ribbon on our World Tour!

Please come contribute! Cool

The Magic Bus World Tour
Susanne

Yeah, Dave! Riding the Bus daily (or never getting off, for that matter) will help you getting back in the groove - we promise!!!!!
Analog6

Active Low carbers banned me for putting my 'commercial' home page in my signature. I can just see all those people from the northern hemisphere inviting me to come and mind their pets, clean their houses or do the gardening! It's not as if I was trying to make money from low carb, inlike some people on their site. They have been deleted from my computer. The only bit I miss is the research threads.

Much more fun and much nicer folk here.
jeff

Quote:
Much more fun and much nicer folk here.


Yes, I have to agree!!
Dave

Thanks guys!

I'll try to pop in more!

I can't believe you got banned Odille! Shock
Heather

Yes Dave stop in more often, let us know how your no carb is going. It took me 14 days to really feel great after starting no carb, I was really hungry and continued cravings until then. Hang in there, the difference was worth it for me.
Heather

Analog6 wrote:
Active Low carbers banned me for putting my 'commercial' home page in my signature.

They have been known to ban people for many silly reasons, but let certain other obnoxious types still have their accounts. Roll Eyes Go figure. We are glad to have you! Heart
Dave

Heather wrote:
Yes Dave stop in more often, let us know how your no carb is going. It took me 14 days to really feel great after starting no carb, I was really hungry and continued cravings until then. Hang in there, the difference was worth it for me.


I think the maximum I went was like 13 days zero carb.

So far it's alright. I wanted a big salad today, but I veered away.

I'm realising that is just a 'craving' and it's not hunger.
Susanne

IF you celebrate...

Happy Thanksgiving!!!! Heart
Heather

Dave, I found that after I went no-carb I have lost alot (but not all) of desire for fruit and vegetables. I just don't look at them the same anymore, I see them now as "carbs," and proceed with caution.
Dave

Susanne wrote:
IF you celebrate...

Happy Thanksgiving!!!! Heart


LOL! AS IF!

That totally doesn't relate to Australia! LOL

By the sounds of it, it's good that we don't. A food holiday can be dangerous!
Dave

Heather wrote:
Dave, I found that after I went no-carb I have lost alot (but not all) of desire for fruit and vegetables. I just don't look at them the same anymore, I see them now as "carbs," and proceed with caution.


This is what I hope.

Yup
Heather

Happy Birthday Dave!

No cake allowed. Shock
jeff

Heather wrote:
Happy Birthday Dave!

No cake allowed. Shock


Yes, Happy Birthday Dave!!! Line Cheer
Dean

Congrats Happy Birthday, Dave! Congrats
Dean

BTW, Dave. I know our posts show Jan 13th for you. But, that is cuz you are 16 hours ahead of us! Wink

We didn't forget your B-Day! Cool
Dave

Thanks guys!

Wow, 31,

do I have to grow up now?? LOL
jeff

LC_Dave wrote:
Thanks guys!

Wow, 31,

do I have to grow up now?? LOL


Of course not. Dean and I are both well into our 40's, and we refuse to grow up! LOL
Dave

Well, my login is known as 'Dave' now, thanks to the Boss changing it.

Hey does that mean I don't have to be so Low Carb all the time! Bonkers
Dean

In your dreams! LOL

Seriously... in your dreams you can eat anything you want, Dave! Wink
Dave

Okay since we are talking dreams.

When I was a fat, insluin resistant 12 year old, I would get very hungry at school.

But, the only knowledge of weight control given to me was that of calories restriction.

One day I day-dreamed of a giant meat pie coming from the sky to fulfill my hunger. And a water foundation that produced lemonade, rather than water.

Thinking back now, I see how crap my nutition was!
Dean

A pot of pie and a lemonade fountain coming out of the sky! Sounds like a trippy Beatles song or something. Wow

Were you into Kool-Aid back then, Dave? Cool
Dave

LOL LOL
Jessica

HI Dave, just wanted to pop in and say well wishes on your all-meat regimen. I've not been around much, been insanely busy but trying to stay in touch with all of you! :)
Dave

Thanks Jessica,

At the moment, I must be honest that I am eating more like Atkins OWL phase. And stalling in wieght loss of course.

My motivation has taken a nose-dive, dealing with depressions and other things in life.

It's funny how the emotional issues that come with obesity (and other things) can bring you to your knees at times.
Dave

My confession.

I've been having a rough time. Bouts of cheating and junk food.

I think there are many factors:-

Psycological issues from being obese all my life.
The incessant push for calorie counting on many websites (It just doesn't help my resolve)
Eating too many carbs even on a low carb diet (I am very sensitive to the least amount of carbs)
Society
Work changes

I have the resolve in me to commit.


I want to commit to The Bear's Zero Carb path.

It's the only one that makes sense to me.

I just have to make an effort.

Take my life seriously!
jeff

Hang in there Dave. Giving up an addiction is hard. Especially when you are fighting against most of society as well as yourself.
Red

You can do it, Dave! Comfort
Dave

Thanks guys!

I reckon I really underestimating the power of acculturtisation.
jeff

Dave wrote:
Thanks guys!

I reckon I really underestimating the power of acculturtisation.


It's a bitch, no doubt about it.
Jessica

Dave, we're here for you!!!

Big Hug Comfort Thumbs Up

It's been hard for me lately... it's Girl Scout cookie time here, and my old vice, Cadbury Cream Eggs, are here yet again.

Hang in there! You can do it!!!
Dave

Thanks Jessica.

I was a total carnivore today!! ROOOAR!
Jessica

Dave wrote:
Thanks Jessica.

I was a total carnivore today!! ROOOAR!


That is so awesome! Keep it up!!! Grin
jeff

Dave wrote:
Thanks Jessica.

I was a total carnivore today!! ROOOAR!


Doesn't it feel great to be a carnivore?
Dave

Does it feel greta?


I think I am still detoxing.

It's like my body is feeling normal, so the Carb Addict in me is depressed.
Dave

Day Four of zero carb.

So I've had three whole days of it.

Dropped 3.6 kilos or 8 pounds in three days!!!

Do you think I was eating too many carbs before ??? LOL
jeff

Dave wrote:
Day Four of zero carb.

So I've had three whole days of it.

Dropped 3.6 kilos or 8 pounds in three days!!!

Do you think I was eating too many carbs before ??? LOL


Ya think? LOL Great job, Dave.
Heather

Damn, not fair.

Oh, I mean, great job Dave! Way to go! Keep up the good work!

LOL
Dave

Heather wrote:
Damn, not fair.


If you look at it as overall percentage of weight - it's very small :(

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