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jeff

Keeping Track of jeff's MAM Experiment

DAY     CALORIES     TOTAL CALORIES     AVG CALORIES
jeff

DAY     CALORIES     TOTAL CALORIES     AVG CALORIES
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
jeff

Day 3 is going great!  I'm on track for well over 5000 calories.  It's amazing the things I can accomplish when Mrs. L is at work. LOL   I even got the outside Christmas lights working!  Sunny
jeff

Looking back at my old experiments I noticed that I was only usinig about .25 to .5 cups of cream per day most of the time.  This time around I will probably average 1-2 cups.  I'm just wondering how many carbs, if any, are actually in this stuff.  I know Red thinks there must be some, otherwise it would be butter.  But Dean has promised me that his company has taken all carbs out of their heavy whipping cream.  We will see, I guess.
Red

It'll be good to know as a reference. Monitor your weight closely, though.
jeff

Red wrote:
It'll be good to know as a reference. Monitor your weight closely, though.

Yes, I'm going to check after one week.  If I'm up, the cream would be the likely culprit.  I love the cream though, 'cause it's such an easy way to get alot of calories  very easily.  On the other hand, I am leaving the wine alone, which I did not do before.  So, it could be that without the wine, I can handle the few extra carbs that might be in the cream.
Dean

jeff wrote:
But Dean has promised me that his company has taken all carbs out of their heavy whipping cream.

That's a guarantee we make, BTW... or your calories back. Wink
jeff

Dean wrote:
jeff wrote:
But Dean has promised me that his company has taken all carbs out of their heavy whipping cream.

That's a guarantee we make, BTW... or your calories back. Wink

That's good enough for me.  Yup
Rich

After checking around 6 grams per cup seems to be about right.
jeff

Rich wrote:
After checking around 6 grams per cup seems to be about right.

I know that's what Fitday says.  But depending on the brand, it can vary some.  The stuff I use says 100% of the calories come from fat.  Now, I understand that there can be some fudging because of rounding.  However, the stuff we use at the restaurant where I work has 60 calories, but ony 50 are from fat.  The rest is divided between protein and fat.  In these situations, I'm more likely to go with what it says on the package versus what Fitday says.
jeff

Ok, I just checked with calorieking.com.  You can look up individual brands there.  They also have an "average of all brands".  The average is .4g carb per tablespoon.  The individual brands seem to range from 0-.6g per tabelspoon.  Draw your own conclusions I guess.
Dan

Mix it down with coconut oil, Jeff.

(loves coconut oil)
jeff

Dan wrote:
Mix it down with coconut oil, Jeff.

(loves coconut oil)

I do need to pick up some coconut oil.  We'll have to sneak it past that guard at the door, though.  I wonder how we could bribe her?  Devil
jeff

DAY     CALORIES     TOTAL CALORIES     AVG CALORIES
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595

Day 3 was over 6400 calories, 84% fat.  I had cream, egg yolks, butter,
and 3 pounds of a combination of country style pork ribs, and chuck eye steak.
Dean

Hey, jeff... were you ever able to hunt down some pork belly? Or don't they allow any other animals but dairy cows in your state? LOL

BTW... we are almost complete on our acquisition of every farm in the Badger State! Wink
Rich

jeff wrote:
DAY     CALORIES     TOTAL CALORIES     AVG CALORIES
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595

Day 3 was over 6400 calories, 84% fat.  I had cream, egg yolks, butter,
and 3 pounds of a combination of country style pork ribs, and chuck eye steak.



I was going to have the ribs tonite,  how do you cook them?
jeff

Rich wrote:
jeff wrote:
DAY     CALORIES     TOTAL CALORIES     AVG CALORIES
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595

Day 3 was over 6400 calories, 84% fat.  I had cream, egg yolks, butter,
and 3 pounds of a combination of country style pork ribs, and chuck eye steak.



I was going to have the ribs tonite,  how do you cook them?

These ribs are boneless.....just long slabs of meat.  I just sear them in a hot pan.  I eat them very rare.
jeff

Dean wrote:
Hey, jeff... were you ever able to hunt down some pork belly? Or don't they allow any other animals but dairy cows in your state? LOL

BTW... we are almost complete on our acquisition of every farm in the Badger State! Wink

I haven't made it to the meat market yet.  I seem to be doing ok calorie-wise, though, without the pork belly.  And congrats on you acquisition of all the Wisconsin dairy farms.  LOL
jeff

DAY     CALORIES     TOTAL CALORIES     AVG CALORIES
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598

eggs fried in butter, heavy whippinig cream, co-jack cheese(sorry), chicken thighs, scrambled eggs, ribeye steak, coffee.

If I can manage to average 4500 calories per day, this would give me an extra 69,000 calories.  Devil   That should be enough for an expected 20 pound fat gain.
Dean

jeff wrote:
If I can manage to average 4500 calories per day, this would give me an extra 69,000 calories.  Devil .

Now, there's the incentive you need! LOL
Heather

WOW Shock
Dan

You might want to list your weight along with the day's calories, Jeff.
jeff

Dan wrote:
You might want to list your weight along with the day's calories, Jeff.

I'm not going to weigh every day.  I'm going to weigh after one week, and them probably not again until the 30 days is up.
jeff

Heather wrote:
WOW Shock

Day 3 contained 604g of fat!!! Grin
jeff

Just finishinig up dinner on day 5.

DAY     CALORIES     TOTAL CALORIES     AVG CALORIES
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620

I had coffee, heavy cream , raw egg yolks, ribeye steak, chicken thighs, and butter.  83% fat.
jeff

I bought 2 quarts of cream at the store today.  Getting tired of going to the Piggly Wiggly every other day for my cream.  LOL
Red

That should last you all of... what, 3-1/2 days? Wink
jeff

Red wrote:
That should last you all of... what, 3-1/2 days? Wink

4 if I stretch it.   LOL
jeff

DAY     CALORIES     TOTAL CALORIES     AVG CALORIES
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498

Butter, but not much today, eggs fried in butter, raw egg yolks, heavy whipping cream, co-jack cheese, roast beef, coffee.  82% fat.
jeff

DAY     CALORIES     TOTAL CALORIES     AVG CALORIES
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425

Day 7 was 3990 calories, and I managed 88% fat.  Wow   I had coffee, butter, heavy whipping cream, bacon, eggs fried in butter, very rare ground beef, and some co-jack cheese.

For the first week I consumed an excess 15575 calories.  If there is no metabolic advantage to this way of eating, I should have gained 4.45 pounds of fat.

My weight this morning was 169.  Exactly the same as last saturday morning.  I will continue for another 3 weeks, although I really don't know why the next 3 weeks should be any different than the first.  It will mostly be a test of my ability to continue eating this way.  LOL
Dean

jeff wrote:
I will continue for another 3 weeks, although I really don't know why the next 3 weeks should be any different than the first.  It will mostly be a test of my ability to continue eating this way.  LOL

Does that mean I can stay out of this MAM Metabolic Ward? Wink

How 'bout I just ship AC some roller skates for xmas? LOL
Adapaz

Ah, another experiment! Good work Jeff, your dedication is inspiring. Wink  Very interested in the final results. A question, do you do any exercise and if so are you including the cals lost? Also is it alot easier to get enough calories now that you're using whipping cream as opposed to butter in your previous experiment?
jeff

Adapaz wrote:
Ah, another experiment! Good work Jeff, your dedication is inspiring. Wink  Very interested in the final results. A question, do you do any exercise and if so are you including the cals lost? Also is it alot easier to get enough calories now that you're using whipping cream as opposed to butter in your previous experiment?


No exercise is allowed in this metabolic ward.  The heavy whipping cream does make it alot easier to get the extra calories in.  It is such a dense form of pure fat, and for me, much easier to down in large quantities than butter is.
jeff

Dean wrote:
jeff wrote:
I will continue for another 3 weeks, although I really don't know why the next 3 weeks should be any different than the first.  It will mostly be a test of my ability to continue eating this way.  LOL

Does that mean I can stay out of this MAM Metabolic Ward? Wink

How 'bout I just ship AC some roller skates for xmas? LOL

Hell no!!!  This whole things was your idea, and you had to talk me into it.  I'll cut you a deal, though.  How about we shorten it to 2 weeks?  Red did it for a whole month, and we saw the results.  I am on the same track as she was, as I was the other 2 times I did similar experiments.  Unless somebody knows of a reason why fat would start being stored only after 2 or 3 weeks, but not during the first 2.  It's not like the fat is just floating around in my blood, waiting to be stored.  And even if it was, it would be showing up on the scale, right?
jeff

1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294

I managed 3375 calories today, and 83% fat.  Not feeling well.  I have a bad cold, which I almost never get anymore.  Calories have been a bit low the last few days.  I think I can make up for it today and tomorrow.  I'll not list the food, since it's basically the same as the previous days.
jeff

It's interesting to note that my average daily calories are just about exactly double my maintenance calories of 2200.  Yup
Kim

jeff wrote:
I'll cut you a deal, though.  How about we shorten it to 2 weeks?  Red did it for a whole month, and we saw the results.  I am on the same track as she was, as I was the other 2 times I did similar experiments.  Unless somebody knows of a reason why fat would start being stored only after 2 or 3 weeks, but not during the first 2.  It's not like the fat is just floating around in my blood, waiting to be stored.  And even if it was, it would be showing up on the scale, right?

I may be wrong but I think you guys should go 4 weeks.  I have heard that studies of 2 weeks are not long enough.  Don't know the reason though.

Kim
Dean

ROTFL

jeff, sneak around the back, while Alex is not looking... I'll break ya out of there! Wink
Alex

Dean wrote:
ROTFL

jeff, sneak around the back, while Alex is not looking... I'll break ya out of there! Wink


LOL You can do whatever you want really, I don't have the time nor the energy to guard you anyway.  Cool
jeff

Alex wrote:
Dean wrote:
ROTFL

jeff, sneak around the back, while Alex is not looking... I'll break ya out there! Wink


LOL You can do whatever you want really, I don't have the time nor the energy to guard you anyway.  Cool

I'll try to keep going.  Dean, you're not getting off the hook that easy.
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358

Day 9 was 4875 calories and 85% fat.  I've been sick, but feeling better today.
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405

I don't feel any fatter yet.  Cool
To this point, I've taken in an extra 22053 calories.  I should be up 6.3 pounds.
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367

Day 11 was 3981 calories and 85% fat.  No foods out of the ordinary.  Meat, eggs, butter, cream.
Jessica

jeff wrote:
Day 3 is going great!  I'm on track for well over 5000 calories.  It's amazing the things I can accomplish when Mrs. L is at work. LOL   I even got the outside Christmas lights working!  Sunny


Handsome, sexy, and handy around the house.

Huh.

Sunny

Jessica
Jessica

jeff wrote:
Dan wrote:
Mix it down with coconut oil, Jeff.

(loves coconut oil)

I do need to pick up some coconut oil.  We'll have to sneak it past that guard at the door, though.  I wonder how we could bribe her?  Devil


Maybe I need to start sending you emergency rations, lol?!

I'll plant a big ole jar of coconut oil in a big, leafy salad!!!

edited: sorry, thought you meant Mrs. Jeff!

Grin
jeff

Jessica wrote:
jeff wrote:
Day 3 is going great!  I'm on track for well over 5000 calories.  It's amazing the things I can accomplish when Mrs. L is at work. LOL   I even got the outside Christmas lights working!  Sunny


Handsome, sexy, and handy around the house.

Huh.

Sunny

Jessica

Heather says I'm "marriage material".   LOL
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401

Day 12, 4772 calories and 87% fat!  I added a new food.....beef suet!  I just warmed some up a bit in pan.  3 ounces contains 726 calories.
Red

jeff wrote:
 I just warmed some up a bit in pan.


And then what? Didn't it just kind of liquify? The suet I can buy here in the little bags has wheat flour in it. Mad
jeff

Red wrote:
jeff wrote:
 I just warmed some up a bit in pan.


And then what? Didn't it just kind of liquify? The suet I can buy here in the little bags has wheat flour in it. Mad

It began to do that, but I only had it in the pan for a couple of minutes.  The bit that did liquify I just poured out of the pan and onto my seared ribeye, so none got wasted.
Red

And the rest? Wasn't it kind of like sludge? LOL I'm just unable to wrap my head around what the eating experience was like...
jeff

Red wrote:
And the rest? Wasn't it kind of like sludge? LOL I'm just unable to wrap my head around what the eating experience was like...

Well, I ate the rest.  I have to admit it was a bit less appetizing than I expected.  LOL
Manaloa

I get my beef suet from a local butcher (at Fareway), they just grind it up for me without putting anything extra in it. I'm 5 lbs of it tomorrow!!  Happy I would imagine the texture was like the fat on the side of a steak after warming it up?
jeff

Manaloa wrote:
I get my beef suet from a local butcher (at Fareway), they just grind it up for me without putting anything extra in it. I'm 5 lbs of it tomorrow!!  Happy I would imagine the texture was like the fat on the side of a steak after warming it up?

Very similar.  But.....I don't know.....there was just somethiing about this stuff that seemed a tiny but different.  Maybe it's just the fact that it wasn't attached to any meat.  LOL
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339

Day 13 was 3597 calories and 88% fat.  I have now consumed an excess of almost 28,000 calories.  I should be up 8 pounds.  We'll see tomorrow morning.  Wink
Jessica

We're all waiting on pins n needles, Jeff!

Btw, you're making this look so easy!  Grin
jeff

Jessica wrote:
We're all waiting on pins n needles, Jeff!

Btw, you're making this look so easy!  Grin

Thanks Jessica.  Looks can be deceiving.   LOL
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279

Day 14 was 3504 calories and 78% fat.  One of my lower calorie days, but still about 1300 above my daily needs.  I've actually been thinking of cutting my calories just a bit for the last 2 weeks.  I am really tired of feeling stuffed and bloated all the time.  The only time I feel normal is first thing in the morning.  I'll still overeat, just not quite as much.
jeff

Almost forgot.......I did weigh in this morning.  No change at all.  Still 169.  I have overate to the tune of 29106 calories.  I should be up 8.3 pounds.
Jessica

jeff wrote:
Almost forgot.......I did weigh in this morning.  No change at all.  Still 169.  I have overate to the tune of 29106 calories.  I should be up 8.3 pounds.


Happy  Shock  Cool  Grin  Sunny

Toast  Thumbs Up  Toast  Thumbs Up  Wine  Congrats  Line Cheer

Wow, that is so amazing!!!!!

And 83% fat, that is insane.

I think you should go celebrate now!!!!!!

Jessica
Jessica

Jeff, are you doing this for a whole month?????


Hugs, Jessica
jeff

Quote:
And 83% fat, that is insane.


Yeah, thank God for heavy whipping cream and butter.  Without those two things I really doubt I could do this.
jeff

Jessica wrote:
Jeff, are you doing this for a whole month?????


Hugs, Jessica


I will try to do it for another 2 weeks.  Although like I said, I may drop calories just a bit.  Not because I'm afraid of anything.  It's just that I'm really not liking how eating this much makes me feel.  I think Mana can relate, right Mana?  Wink
Dean

I have no doubt that the reason you were so sick with that cold is because your amino acid pool had to create/direct proteins to digestion, leaving your defense system vulnerable. That metabolic ward is brutal, huh? Shock
jeff

Dean wrote:
I have no doubt that the reason you were so sick with that cold is because your amino acid pool had to create/direct proteins to digestion, leaving your defense system vulnerable. That metabolic ward is brutal, huh? Shock

That could very well be, because since I started low-carbing I almost never get sick.  Not even a cold.
Kim

jeff wrote:
Almost forgot.......I did weigh in this morning.  No change at all.  Still 169.  I have overate to the tune of 29106 calories.  I should be up 8.3 pounds.


Way to go Jeff.  Great experiment.  One question.  I was talking to someone at work about your experiment and she wondered if someone who is used to working out and and has quite a bit of muscle would continue to burn calories at the same rate as when they were working out even though they have stopped exercising for a certain time period after they stop working out.  Confusing, I know.  She was thinking that maybe if someone works out on a regular basis, it would take a few weeks for their metabolism to slow down and and wondered if that is why you hadn't gained any weight yet.  But if you continued this way of eating say for 2 months, that eventually your metabolism would fall to what you say is your base of 2200 (?) and then you would start to gain.

Kim
Dean

ROTFL

I hate to say "I told you so"... So, I won't! LOL

And, I think Kim has a good point there, jeff. Wink I think you should continue this Experiment for at least two more months... with one change. I think you should up your calories to about 6,000 a day. LOL

Alex, secure the doors and windows. Devil
jeff

Quote:
I was talking to someone at work about your experiment and she wondered if someone who is used to working out and and has quite a bit of muscle would continue to burn calories at the same rate as when they were working out even though they have stopped exercising for a certain time period after they stop working out.

I really don't think so.  If my body is burning through over 4000 calories per day now, wouldn't I have been emaciated before I started this, when I was consuming 2500-2800 calories per day?  And remember, Red did the same experiment with the same results.  And I'm assuming she doesn't have near the muscle mass that I do. (no offense intended, Red.)
jeff

Dean wrote:
ROTFL

I hate to say "I told you so"... So, I won't! LOL

And, I think Kim has a good point there, jeff. Wink I think you should continue this Experiment for at least two more months... with one change. I think you should up your calories to about 6,000 a day. LOL

Alex, secure the doors and windows. Devil

And you be quiet there in the back of the Bus!   I'll do 6,000 calories a day for 3 months when you do it.  Wink

I knew all along this would be tough to do.  That is why I was so reluctant to do it in the first place.
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259

Day 15 was 3981 calories and 85% fat.  Heavy cream, fried eggs, egg yolks, ham, ribeye steak, butter, and shrimp.
Red

jeff wrote:
And remember, Red did the same experiment with the same results.  And I'm assuming she doesn't have near the muscle mass that I do. (no offense intended, Red.)


None taken! It's all true. Although I do have the calves of a lumberjack. Only less hairy.
Manaloa

jeff wrote:
I will try to do it for another 2 weeks.  Although like I said, I may drop calories just a bit.  Not because I'm afraid of anything.  It's just that I'm really not liking how eating this much makes me feel.  I think Mana can relate, right Mana?  Wink


OMG, yeah, it was awful.

Kim wrote:
jeff wrote:
Almost forgot.......I did weigh in this morning.  No change at all.  Still 169.  I have overate to the tune of 29106 calories.  I should be up 8.3 pounds.


Way to go Jeff.  Great experiment.  One question.  I was talking to someone at work about your experiment and she wondered if someone who is used to working out and and has quite a bit of muscle would continue to burn calories at the same rate as when they were working out even though they have stopped exercising for a certain time period after they stop working out.  Confusing, I know.  She was thinking that maybe if someone works out on a regular basis, it would take a few weeks for their metabolism to slow down and and wondered if that is why you hadn't gained any weight yet.  But if you continued this way of eating say for 2 months, that eventually your metabolism would fall to what you say is your base of 2200 (?) and then you would start to gain.

Kim


yeah, but I did it for like, what, 9 days or so. I have no muscle to speak of and I'm overweight by about at least fifty pounds. I didn't exercise during my part in the ward and I think I lost around three lbs. Besides IF Jeff's "metabolism" was at 4000 calories while he's working out, then wouldn't he have been "losing" weight before he started in the ward. Because I'm pretty sure he did not eat that many calories before he started in the ward.  
Dean

All very good points, Mana. Yup Now, go tell AC all about it! Wink

You didn't want that account anyway, now did you? LOL
jeff

Dean wrote:
All very good points, Mana. Yup Now, go tell AC all about it! Wink

You didn't want that account anyway, now did you? LOL

I can't wait to go tell AC allllllll about this when all is said and done.  Maybe AC would like some new roller skates for Christmas?   LOL
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303

Day 16 was 4967 calories and 86% fat.  Co-jack cheese, sausage, heavy whipping cream, raw eggs yolks, and chuck eye steak.  Ok.....maybe I won't start cutting calories a bit.   LOL
Kim

Manaloa wrote:
yeah, but I did it for like, what, 9 days or so. I have no muscle to speak of and I'm overweight by about at least fifty pounds. I didn't exercise during my part in the ward and I think I lost around three lbs. Besides IF Jeff's "metabolism" was at 4000 calories while he's working out, then wouldn't he have been "losing" weight before he started in the ward. Because I'm pretty sure he did not eat that many calories before he started in the ward.  


Just want to clarify so I can better explain this to my coworker.  Before your experiment Jeff, were you only eating about 2200 cal. before with exercise?  So this would mean if you weren't exercising, your calorie requirement would actually drop even lower?

Kim
jeff

Kim wrote:
Manaloa wrote:
yeah, but I did it for like, what, 9 days or so. I have no muscle to speak of and I'm overweight by about at least fifty pounds. I didn't exercise during my part in the ward and I think I lost around three lbs. Besides IF Jeff's "metabolism" was at 4000 calories while he's working out, then wouldn't he have been "losing" weight before he started in the ward. Because I'm pretty sure he did not eat that many calories before he started in the ward.  


Just want to clarify so I can better explain this to my coworker.  Before your experiment Jeff, were you only eating about 2200 cal. before with exercise?  So this would mean if you weren't exercising, your calorie requirement would actually drop even lower?

Kim

Not quite.  I normally eat about 2500-2800 calories per day.  I got the 2200 using the results of several online metabolism calculators, using a sedentary lifestyle for my activity level.  This seems about right.
Heather

jeff wrote:
Dean wrote:
All very good points, Mana. Yup Now, go tell AC all about it! Wink

You didn't want that account anyway, now did you? LOL

I can't wait to go tell AC allllllll about this when all is said and done.  Maybe AC would like some new roller skates for Christmas?   LOL

Like these?
Dean

I see AC has come to check out our Metabolic Ward. I hope Alex gives him the grand tour. Don't forget about the padded cell. Bonkers
Kim

jeff wrote:
Not quite.  I normally eat about 2500-2800 calories per day.  I got the 2200 using the results of several online metabolism calculators, using a sedentary lifestyle for my activity level.  This seems about right.


Okay, well that still helps my explanation.  Good for you for trying this.

Kim
jeff

Heather wrote:
jeff wrote:
Dean wrote:
All very good points, Mana. Yup Now, go tell AC all about it! Wink

You didn't want that account anyway, now did you? LOL

I can't wait to go tell AC allllllll about this when all is said and done.  Maybe AC would like some new roller skates for Christmas?   LOL

Like these?

That's perfect, Heather.   Yup  

Dean, AC has been here?  Shock
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303
17             4676                73531                     4325

Day 17 was 4676 calories and 86% fat.  Fried eggs, egg yolks, heavy whiping cream, cheese, sausage and ribeye steak.  Oh, and coffee.  Assume coffee every day, even if I don't put it down.  Wink
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303
17             4676                73531                     4325
18             3386                76917                     4274

Day 18 was 3386 calories and 83% fat.  I made Bear's chicken with butter and cream cheese recipe for dinner.  I had 5 chicken thighs.  Alot of the butter and cream cheese ends up running out, so I didn't count most of what I actually used.  It's still in the pan, though.  If I decide to drink it, I'll come back and make adjustments.  I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.
Dean

jeff wrote:
I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.

So, jeff, who's sneaking booze in to you? Where's Alex at? She isn't taking this security thing very seriously, now is she. Wink

Just don't tell AC... he will say we aren't running a "tightly controlled" ward, here. LOL Hey, the jokes on him, right? Grin We know exactly what we're doin' on the Bus! Devil
Red

jeff wrote:
I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.


Ew.
Dean

ROTFL

That's what I like so much about you, Red. You always get right to the point! LOL
jeff

Red wrote:
jeff wrote:
I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.


Ew.


I much prefer real beer, but I just can't spare the carbs.  Especially now that I'm in this metabolic ward thing.  Even when I'm not in here, I never do real beer anymore.  Maybe I should just stick to scotch, Red?   Wink
jeff

Dean wrote:
jeff wrote:
I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.

So, jeff, who's sneaking booze in to you? Where's Alex at? She isn't taking this security thing very seriously, now is she. Wink

Just don't tell AC... he will say we aren't running a "tightly controlled" ward, here. LOL Hey, the jokes on him, right? Grin We know exactly what we're doin' on the Bus! Devil


She was ummm.........distracted. Yeah, that's it.   Devil
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303
17             4676                73531                     4325
18             3386                76917                     4274
19             4091                81008                     4264

Day 19 was 4091 calories and 85% fat.  In addition to the usual steak, eggs and cream, I had a tossed salad with blue cheese dressing and a glasss of merlot at a restaurant.  Boy, things sure are getting lax in this ward.  Where is that guard?
Red

jeff wrote:
Maybe I should just stick to scotch, Red?   Wink
Now you're speaking my language. Yup
Dean

jeff wrote:
In addition to the usual steak, eggs and cream, I had a tossed salad with blue cheese dressing and a glasss of merlot at a restaurant.  Boy, things sure are getting lax in this ward.  Where is that guard?

Red wrote:
jeff wrote:
Maybe I should just stick to scotch, Red?   Wink
Now you're speaking my language. Yup

Only on the Bus would a Metabolic Ward get this way... Devil

I agree with jeff. We must abolish all Metabolic Wards. Wink
jeff

Dean wrote:
jeff wrote:
In addition to the usual steak, eggs and cream, I had a tossed salad with blue cheese dressing and a glasss of merlot at a restaurant.  Boy, things sure are getting lax in this ward.  Where is that guard?

Red wrote:
jeff wrote:
Maybe I should just stick to scotch, Red?   Wink
Now you're speaking my language. Yup

Only on the Bus would a Metabolic Ward get this way... Devil

I agree with jeff. We must abolish all Metabolic Wards. Wink

Kind of reminds me of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.  LOL   I'll be Jack Nickolson.  Wink

Dean, we'll have to wait until ALL experiments have been completed before abolishing all the metabolic wards.
Dean

jeff wrote:
Dean, we'll have to wait until ALL experiments have been completed before abolishing all the metabolic wards.

I've got a better idea. Since we've lost our security expert, and AC is now on the loose (that's a scary thought, huh? Wow ), why don't we just cruise this Bus to every Metabolic Ward in the world and free all the patients. Yup They can jump on the Bus and do these experiments the Magic way. Cool  Devil  Wink
jeff

Dean wrote:
jeff wrote:
Dean, we'll have to wait until ALL experiments have been completed before abolishing all the metabolic wards.

I've got a better idea. Since we've lost our security expert, and AC is now on the loose (that's a scary thought, huh? Wow ), why don't we just cruise this Bus to every Metabolic Ward in the world and free all the patients. Yup They can jump on the Bus and do these experiments the Magic way. Cool  Devil  Wink


I dunno.......I really want to see you do this one, Dean.  After all, it was your idea.  Wink   Then we can close all the wards.  Yup
jeff

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303
17             4676                73531                     4325
18             3386                76917                     4274
19             4091                81008                     4264
20             3635                84643                     4232

Day 20 was 3635 calories and 87% fat.  The guard must be back on duty.  Nobody snuck any booze or salad into the metabolic ward today.  LOL   Eggs, bacon, cream and pork shoulder roast.
Heather

No booze???? Wow! Yup
jeff

Heather wrote:
No booze???? Wow! Yup

Or more likely.....somebody tried to sneak some in, but the guard confiscated it and drank it herself.  Mad
Alex

jeff wrote:
Heather wrote:
No booze???? Wow! Yup

Or more likely.....somebody tried to sneak some in, but the guard confiscated it and drank it herself.  Mad


Hammer Don't start spreading rumours about me, or you will be in big trouble, just wait until BJ's back to discuss your punishment, or did you really think this would be easily forgotten  Livid

You just made a big mistake, don't think you will get out that fast. No No
Alex

Boy, this place sure isn't what it used to be, how about some KoolAid for everyone, Shawn?  Cool

I need something to relax anyway Roll Eyes .
Dean

I just contacted Shawn, and she informed me that she is busy making another batch of Kool-Aid. Apparently, AC thought the last batch was his "glucose juice", and he injected a "very large" amount into... well, his escape was inevitable, it seems... he went straight through the wall. Wow That also explains the reports coming in from Dr Mike, about the naked, roller-skating man with the Santa Claus cap... Bonkers

BTW, AC didn't use up all the Kool-Aid (just most of it). What he left of that last batch was consumed by jeff and Heather... in my journal! Shock They're still looking for that key... Devil
jeff

Alex wrote:
jeff wrote:
Heather wrote:
No booze???? Wow! Yup

Or more likely.....somebody tried to sneak some in, but the guard confiscated it and drank it herself.  Mad


Hammer Don't start spreading rumours about me, or you will be in big trouble, just wait until BJ's back to discuss your punishment, or did you really think this would be easily forgotten  Livid

You just made a big mistake, don't think you will get out that fast. No No

Maybe you can borrow Heather's whip.  Devil

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