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Tracy

Starbucks!

Calling all carnivores - I need a name for a "new" Starbucks drink!

I met a friend of mine yesterday evening at my year-round Farmers Market. I'd placed a mega-meat order with a local farm, and they'd forgotten to include a few items so I went to pick them up (roasted coffee beans, wildcrafted elderberry jam, which I will hold off on for now, and grass-fed ground beef). I snagged a couple NY striploins, bacon and 2 venison steaks as well. My friend, who has Crohn's and eats terribly, was VERY impressed with the meats there, and is planning on doing more natural meat shopping (hooray!)

Afterwards, we hit my Dominion (grocery store) so she could get some Ensure. She's in a flare and doc ordered a liquid diet - there's gotta be a better option than Ensure. That stuff is horrid. We talked about her eating, and I suggested she go for, at least, getting more protein and fat into her, and she is interested in quitting grains to see how it makes her feel. Another yay!

So I treated her to Starbucks. She got some apple cider/caramel thing, which made my teeth itch just looking at it. I ordered a latte, and asked if they'd make it with cream instead of milk.

"Is 10% okay?" the barista asked. Sure, I said, if that's what you've got.

"Yeah, it's called a breve. You know, someone came in once and asked for a latte made with, like, whipping cream, the 30% stuff. Like, euw."

My eyes lit up. Yup, I said, if you've got that, then that's what I want.

"Really?" she asked. "Seriously?"

Oh yeah.

"Okay...wow, we don't even have a name for that."

So I'm thinking Starbucks needs to add this to their menu, fancy name and all. All I can come up with is "High-fat latte". Help me out here - my goal is to see this on their board!
jeff

hmmm.....anything else in it besides coffee and cream?
wifezilla

Quote:
there's gotta be a better option than Ensure. That stuff is horrid.


You are right...and why not an Atkins Shake? I'm not big on premade anything, but these are a HELL of a lot better than that Ensure crap!

As for what to call it, hummmmmm.....

Cafe Créme?
Kim

When I'm off the bus, I would go to Starbucks and get hot chocolate and I always ask for their heaviest cream instead of milk or breve.
Dean

wifezilla wrote:
As for what to call it, hummmmmm.....

Cafe Créme?

zilla came pretty close. It is actually called caffé crème, and it is already a drink, at least in any real coffee shop.

Since these coffee names are all in Italian, here's a little lesson in that language.

Straight espresso is known as caffé.

Whole milk is latté.
Half & half is breve.
Heavy cream is crème.

Therefore,

A caffé latté is steamed whole milk and espresso.
A caffé breve is steamed half & half and espresso.
A caffé crème is steamed heavy cream and espresso.

It is customary to not include the caffé in these names, hence they would just be called latté, breve, or crème. So, on "the big board" Wink , it could be caffé crème or just crème.

BTW, mocha means chocolate, so don't even think about it, Tracy! Shock
Tracy

Jeff - nope, just coffee and cream.

Atkins shakes - never would have thought!

So it does have a name - figures in 'Bucks, they've no clue. I will dutifully inform them! Though I'm liking "High-fat latte" for the shock value. And no, Dean, no mocha!
jeff

I vote for High-Fat Latte also.  I love the shock value.   LOL
Dean

Yah, I've heard Starbuck$ calls everything "latte". They will ask if you want a "breve latte". Roll Eyes Yah, forget the java, just give me a cup of whole milk and half & half! LOL

Here in the Carnivore Cafe we serve only caffé crème. Cool
corafan

Re: Starbucks!

Tracy wrote:
I ordered a latte, and asked if they'd make it with cream instead of milk.

"Is 10% okay?" the barista asked. Sure, I said, if that's what you've got.

"Yeah, it's called a breve. You know, someone came in once and asked for a latte made with, like, whipping cream, the 30% stuff. Like, euw."

What do the percentages refer to? Not fat, right? Because half and half should be about 75-80% fat, and cream should be about 100%.
Dean

Re: Starbucks!

Tracy wrote:
"You know, someone came in once and asked for a latte made with, like, whipping cream, the 30% stuff. Like, euw."

See, this is what I was talking about. How could you have a latte (which is made with whole milk) made with heavy cream? It makes no sense. Bonkers
Tracy

Everything is a latte at Starbucks, except for the stuff that ends in "cino". Not that I'm any kind of coffee connoisseur - I'm more a tea junkie, though I do enjoy a coffee esp when I can grind my own beans :)

Corafan, half & half is listed as 10% milk fat, heavy cream is 35%. Someone smarter than me will know what that means exactly.
Dean

Tracy, it's the amount of pure fat in the cream. There is stuff called "clotted cream" that is 55% fat! Shock jeff should have been using that during his experiment! LOL
jeff

Dean wrote:
Tracy, it's the amount of pure fat in the cream. There is stuff called "clotted cream" that is 55% fat! Shock jeff should have been using that during his experiment! LOL

Dean, does our dairy produce this stuff???  If not, we should get right on it.  I've never seen the stuff.
Dean

The stockholders are meeting with the American Heart Association on warning labels as we speak. Roll Eyes
Heather L

I Heart  coffee.  Luckily, I have learned to love it black... and don't have to deal with latte vs creme.  Once I went to black coffee all the time, if I added cream it seemed strange.   I never used to drink it black.  Weird how that happens.
Kim

jeff wrote:
Dean wrote:
Tracy, it's the amount of pure fat in the cream. There is stuff called "clotted cream" that is 55% fat! Shock jeff should have been using that during his experiment! LOL

Dean, does our dairy produce this stuff???  If not, we should get right on it.  I've never seen the stuff.


I was at our coop the other day and in the deli case they had bottles of clotted cream.

Kim
Red

You found a starbucks with whipping cream?? I've asked a million times and the most they ever have at any of the ones near me is 18% coffee cream!
wifezilla

Every time I ask for cream, those bastards give me half and half. Ewwww!

I gave up on Starbucks. I got tired of spending $5 to get something I couldn't drink.
jeff

wifezilla wrote:
Every time I ask for cream, those bastards give me half and half. Ewwww!

I gave up on Starbucks. I got tired of spending $5 to get something I couldn't drink.

Bastards!!!
jeff

Dean wrote:
The stockholders are meeting with the American Heart Association on warning labels as we speak. Roll Eyes

Geez, we can't let the AHA have any input in this.  The warning label would be bigger than the carton.  LOL
jeff

Kim wrote:
jeff wrote:
Dean wrote:
Tracy, it's the amount of pure fat in the cream. There is stuff called "clotted cream" that is 55% fat! Shock jeff should have been using that during his experiment! LOL

Dean, does our dairy produce this stuff???  If not, we should get right on it.  I've never seen the stuff.


I was at our coop the other day and in the deli case they had bottles of clotted cream.

Kim

Is it still in liquid form with that much fat?   LOL   I want some!!!
Dean

The next time I'm in a Starbucks, I'm gonna order a caffé clot! LOL
Kim

jeff wrote:
Kim wrote:
jeff wrote:
Dean wrote:
Tracy, it's the amount of pure fat in the cream. There is stuff called "clotted cream" that is 55% fat! Shock jeff should have been using that during his experiment! LOL

Dean, does our dairy produce this stuff???  If not, we should get right on it.  I've never seen the stuff.


I was at our coop the other day and in the deli case they had bottles of clotted cream.

Kim

Is it still in liquid form with that much fat?   LOL   I want some!!!


Next time I go, I'll look and see what the fat content is.

Kim
jeff

Kim wrote:
jeff wrote:
Kim wrote:
jeff wrote:
Dean wrote:
Tracy, it's the amount of pure fat in the cream. There is stuff called "clotted cream" that is 55% fat! Shock jeff should have been using that during his experiment! LOL

Dean, does our dairy produce this stuff???  If not, we should get right on it.  I've never seen the stuff.


I was at our coop the other day and in the deli case they had bottles of clotted cream.

Kim

Is it still in liquid form with that much fat?   LOL   I want some!!!


Next time I go, I'll look and see what the fat content is.

Kim

Thanks!!
Heather

Dean wrote:
The next time I'm in a Starbucks, I'm gonna order a caffé clot! LOL

I'm quite positive no one will have a clue what that is in a starbucks. Then my next reaction is that the "clot" part gives me very icky thoughts.... Shock

Just sayin'

But in all reality, I wish I knew where to buy clotted cream, it sounds awesome. Yup I have never seen it.
jeff

Heather wrote:
Dean wrote:
The next time I'm in a Starbucks, I'm gonna order a caffé clot! LOL

I'm quite positive no one will have a clue what that is in a starbucks. Then my next reaction is that the "clot" part gives me very icky thoughts.... Shock

Just sayin'

But in all reality, I wish I knew where to buy clotted cream, it sounds awesome. Yup I have never seen it.

There's gotta be some of that stuff in WI.  I'll have to check around.
Erasmus

Clotted cream is real British thing.  I'm surprised you don't have it up there in the great white north.

The only place you can find it around here is in the homesick shops for Brit ex-pats.

It's in a CAN. Wow

-E
Heather L

I wonder if clotted cream is like the heavenly stuff at the top of a big carton of heavy whipping cream.  The layer at the top of the carton is thicker and beyond yummy. (sigh) Pure pleasure.
Heather

Erasmus wrote:
Clotted cream is real British thing.  I'm surprised you don't have it up there in the great white north.

The only place you can find it around here is in the homesick shops for Brit ex-pats.

It's in a CAN. Wow

-E

If it is here, I just haven't found it yet. It's definitely not common. I saw some expensive cream in a jar once but I don't recall it being any higher in fat.

In a can you say? Interesting...

I'll have to ask around, especially those Brit ex-pats. Wink

Where's Kateryna when I need her, she always knows where to find everything. Yup
Tracy

Clotted cream? I'm on it. Must find it. I'm sure I've seen how to make it, somewhere - maybe in NT? (Maybe I'm thinking of something else) I would love to walk into Starbucks and order a caffe clot. The 16-yr-old barista, with her shiny braces and sproingy elastics, would, like, totally flip out and be, like, huh?

Red - head on down to my 'hood sometime! We gots tha fat here in Liberty Village :) A caffe creme is dinner...sooooooo rich and delicious and filling!

(I am all smug with my new coffee terminology, thanks Dean)
Kim

Got this recipe for clotted cream off the food network site.

2 cups pasteurized (not ultra-pasteurized) cream

Set a coffee filter basket, lined with a filter, in a strainer, over a bowl. Pour the cream almost to the top of the filter. Refrigerate for 2 hours. The whey will sink to the bottom passing through the filter leaving a ring of clotted cream. Scrape this down with a rubber spatula and repeat every couple of hours until the mass reaches the consistency of soft cream cheese.

Kim
jeff

Kim wrote:
Got this recipe for clotted cream off the food network site.

2 cups pasteurized (not ultra-pasteurized) cream

Set a coffee filter basket, lined with a filter, in a strainer, over a bowl. Pour the cream almost to the top of the filter. Refrigerate for 2 hours. The whey will sink to the bottom passing through the filter leaving a ring of clotted cream. Scrape this down with a rubber spatula and repeat every couple of hours until the mass reaches the consistency of soft cream cheese.

Kim

Hmmmm.......that might be worth a try.  Thanks Kim.
Dean

Quote:
Clotted cream is a thick yellow cream made by heating unpasteurized cow's milk and then leaving it in shallow pans for several hours. During this time, the cream content rises to the surface and forms 'clots'. When clotted cream is not commercially available, a reasonable facsimile may be made by combining two parts whole milk with one part heavy whipping cream, heating at the very lowest possible heat for a couple of hours until a skin forms, leaving it undisturbed overnight, and then harvesting the skin and its underclots.
jeff

Dean wrote:
Quote:
Clotted cream is a thick yellow cream made by heating unpasteurized cow's milk and then leaving it in shallow pans for several hours. During this time, the cream content rises to the surface and forms 'clots'. When clotted cream is not commercially available, a reasonable facsimile may be made by combining two parts whole milk with one part heavy whipping cream, heating at the very lowest possible heat for a couple of hours until a skin forms, leaving it undisturbed overnight, and then harvesting the skin and its underclots.

I don't think I want skin and clots in my coffee.   LOL
Sassy

Dean wrote:
The next time I'm in a Starbucks, I'm gonna order a caffé clot! LOL


ROTFL  ROTFL  ROTFL  ROTFL  ROTFL

Sassy
jeff

Dean wrote:
The next time I'm in a Starbucks, I'm gonna order a caffé clot! LOL

Which will get you this response:   Shock  Confused  Shock  Confused
Tracy

Thanks Kim and Dean! I may try this out...

I went in to a Second Cup (Canadian version of Starbucks, and better coffee IMO, not that's Bucks is hard to top) and decided to treat myself after the Feb challenge. Ordered a decaf (it was late) sugar-free vanilla caffe creme. I got this:

Confused

I explained that I wanted a latte, but with heavy cream instead of milk. I got this:

Shock

Just as Jeff predicted - but I didn't even have to say "clot" to get the shock factor.

As I left, the guy said to me "Wow, I've never done that before."

(no Dean, that's not the first time I've heard that  Devil )
Valcan

Tracy,

The last time I was at Second Cup, I ordered a decaf, sugar-free, heavy cream coretto latte with no whip cream on top (oh, no I have become one of them!  One of them with a coffee order name longer than  U.S. presidential campaign).  Anyway, I finally get my coffee and what is across the top?  Thick sugary caramel syrup!  Yikes, did I not say sugar-free??  Anyway, I gave it back they made it again and it was worth it.  Yummy x 10.  

I find that when I order this, I have to talk slowly and stress that I want the heavy cream.  Oh well, we are breaking ground here, pretty soon everyone will be ordering them like this.

Val
Red

OK, what the crap? None - NONE! - of the Starbuckses or Second Cups I frequent have whipping cream behind the counter! In fact, Second Cup doesn't even have coffee cream - they only have half and half! I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe where nothing is awesome.
Valcan

Hi,

Where in Canada do you live?  I got mine when I was in Edmonton.  The guy said the cream was 33%.  I find it hard to believe that they do not serve full fat cream in their regular coffee.  Also, how do they make their whipped topping if they have no real cream in the place???  I smell a rat in the Second Cup you go to.

Val
Red

I live in Toronto. They use aerosol pre-sweetened cream for their whipped cream!
wifezilla

Ewwwwwwwwwww!
Valcan

They squirt it right out of the cow in Alberta!
jeff

Valcan wrote:
They squirt it right out of the cow in Alberta!

I'd go for that.  Yup
Tracy

Red wrote:
I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe where nothing is awesome.


That's North Toronto for ya  LOL

Come down my way soon - we'll high-fat it at The Cup!

Valcan...I know. And I hate myself for it, a little. As long as I never, ever say "grande" I feel ok. (like, it's a freakin' medium! call it a medium, for chrissakes! where are we? #@*&!)
Red

OK, Tracy, that'll be our next meeting place. YOUR second cup.  Yup
jeff

I have a Strarbucks story from my recent trip.  I'm at the Tampa airport, getting ready to come home on monday.  I spot a Starbucks and figure I'll go get something to drink while I'm waiting from my flight.  I order a latte, but ask for "the heaviest cream you have, instead of milk."

To her credit, the barista did not give me this:   Shock  

But, she did make some kind of indescernable sound that conveyed a sense of disgust.  She also physically shuddered while making the sound.  It was quite amusing. The drink was awesome, BTW.
Heather

At least she knew what you were talking about, that's promising.
jeff

Heather wrote:
At least she knew what you were talking about, that's promising.

Yes, I suppose I should be greatful she even knew what I was talking about and that they had the heavy cream.  I'm really not sure what kind of cream it was, but it seemed pretty heavy and was delicious.
Tracy

I ordered a high fat latte the other day and the guy making it was really interested. Said he's going to try it for himself.

He also said that whipping cream isn't supposed to be steamed. I can't figure out why that would be?

Apparently Starbucks has some sort of online community crap thing to solicit ideas from customers - shall we all innundate them with requests for the high fat latte to be included on their board? Right next to the skinny latte, say?
wifezilla

I already posted on that site. Now if I can only remember how to get back to the site :P
jeff

Quote:
Apparently Starbucks has some sort of online community crap thing to solicit ideas from customers - shall we all innundate them with requests for the high fat latte to be included on their board? Right next to the skinny latte, say?

Good idea!  I'm sure they'd wonder what the heck was going on.  LOL   I steamed some heavy whipping cream a few days ago with no adverse effects.  I have no idea what the problem would be.  Confused
Valcan

Hi,

Those suggestions are already there numerous times, you just have to go vote for them.


Edit - It is low carb that I have seen there, sorry.  Here is a link to a high fat request that I posted:

http://mystarbucksidea.force.com/...?ext=0&lsi=1&m=2&ml=3

Val
Tracy

Voted and commented! Oh, and I found out the actual term for this would be a caffe con panna.
Dean

Tracy wrote:
Oh, and I found out the actual term for this would be a caffe con panna.

Tracy, isn't that topped with whipped cream, and probably a sweet drink?
jeff

Dean wrote:
Tracy wrote:
Oh, and I found out the actual term for this would be a caffe con panna.

Tracy, isn't that topped with whipped cream, and probably a sweet drink?

I still vote for "caffee clot".   LOL
Heather

I still haven't found clotted cream here.  Cry
Dean

Heather, you'll have to take that up with jeff's Dairy Company. I'm not responsible for any of it at this point. Yesterday, when I informed the stockholders that I'd be giving up cream and only using butter, they told me they'd have to liquidate all my remaining stock and overnight the proceeds to me. This morning, UPS delivered a large shipment of unsalted butter. Shock
Valcan

Tracy,

Great job on posting the comment!



When I clicked on my link above it did not work for me.  What I did was click on the link then search for "high fat latte" and found it.  It would be great if more people commented and voted for this option.

Val
jeff

I did the high fat latte search and found nothing.  Confused
Dean

jeff, I think the AHA had them take it down. Better get that lobby group together for an emergency meeting. Isn't your clotted cream product almost ready to hit the shelves? Wink
jeff

You're probably right about the AHA.  LOL   Yeah, the clotted cream is in the final stages of R&D.  Yup
Heather

I couldn't find the post either. Dunno
Valcan

Hi,

I just went and it is still there.  You might not be able to see it if you are not signed in.  Trying creating an account first:

https://www.starbucks.com/mystarbucksidea/createaccount.aspx

Log in, then click on "view all ideas" at the top then type "high fat latte" in the search box at the top right.

Hope it works.

Val
jeff

Valcan wrote:
Hi,

I just went and it is still there.  You might not be able to see it if you are not signed in.  Trying creating an account first:

https://www.starbucks.com/mystarbucksidea/createaccount.aspx

Log in, then click on "view all ideas" at the top then type "high fat latte" in the search box at the top right.

Hope it works.

Val

Yep, creating an account works!!!  I just did it.  I suggested a "Caffe Clot".  I am carnivor.
Heather

Yep, created account and I voted.
Heather

Here is a direct link:
http://mystarbucksidea.force.com/...00004Q0F&srPos=0&srKp=087
jeff

Heather wrote:
Here is a direct link:
http://mystarbucksidea.force.com/...00004Q0F&srPos=0&srKp=087

Nice job Hotty!  Wink
Karen

Ok..this worked..i found your post! i commented too! woot!

Valcan wrote:
Hi,

I just went and it is still there.  You might not be able to see it if you are not signed in.  Trying creating an account first:

https://www.starbucks.com/mystarbucksidea/createaccount.aspx

Log in, then click on "view all ideas" at the top then type "high fat latte" in the search box at the top right.

Hope it works.

Val
Tracy

Yay for high fat latte voting!

Dean - my investigative team has informed me that a con panna is espresso topped with a "bonnet of whipped cream". We're going to have to stick with HFL, or "caffe clot".
Dean

What about "caffe creme"? Confused

I think the one with clotted cream should definitely be called "caffe clot", though. Once jeff's Dairy Company starts the distribution of that product, that is. Wink
jeff

Dean wrote:
What about "caffe creme"? Confused

I think the one with clotted cream should definitely be called "caffe clot", though. Once jeff's Dairy Company starts the distribution of that product, that is. Wink

Dean, if they do decide to go with Caffee Clot, I'll make sure you get at least partial credit. Wink
Shelly

"Oh!  Yeah, just order an 'Atkins Latte'".  said the friendly Barista at Starbucks in Waikiki.  "It's coffee, heavy cream and sugar-free vanilla."

OMG it was tasty!
jeff

Shelly wrote:
"Oh!  Yeah, just order an 'Atkins Latte'".  said the friendly Barista at Starbucks in Waikiki.  "It's coffee, heavy cream and sugar-free vanilla."

OMG it was tasty!

Yum!  I wonder if that would work at any Starbucks.
Tracy

I've had it, and it rocks. Wasn't called an Atkins Latte - but that's a catchy name...

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