The Active Carnivore

Amanda · The Active Carnivore

Ok! I wanna start a journal, their always good if you can stick them, motivation baby and its good for reference and such and of course if I f@@K up you guys can laugh at me... Shock

.... so I'd say Im fairly active, Im a student and I work part time at a country club (yea yea) and I love to go to the gym, I typically lift but havent in a month because I was training brazilian jiu jitsu (my fav sport) and a guy was too rough and I thinkI tore the ligament between my shoulder and my latimus dorsi or something rather- lets just say I had a shoulder accident...So I've been doing cardio a lot, I love to bike and Im saving for a carbon Cerverlo, I hate cars and I sold mine. I also need to start surfing again as the weather is getting nice, I'm trying to pick up yoga again, and I start tennis in the mornings during this next summer semester as college...woooh yea sports rock! And despite my love of sports and being active...im still a fatty Cry

but thats about to change because I've given up med/low carbs and going for zero/carnie etc
So Im 5'7.5 and as of today im 169, my lowest in over a year! wo ho thats after 4 days of strict less than 10 carbs, and right now its 3 pm here and I just ate my first meal: steakburger (its just a hamburger thing from TJ's) 380cal/30fat/26 prot, 2 slices uncured bacon, and i slice "yogurt" cheese, I have to go to work in an hour so I probably wont eat till 9 pm, than I need to go to the gym and finally pick up some weights, I think the shoulder is almost completely healed finally...i hate when guys dont realize their own strength, what a tool and this isn't the first time, a couple years ago i was rolling with a cop (as in training, not taking X lol) and he crushed my ribs, i couldn't train for 4 weeks... alright hope everyone else is having a nice day!

Dean

Welcome to Journaland, Amanda! Cool

You should check out the Tribal Games forum for the active stuff on the Bus.

I'm glad you started a journal. They are a great way of keeping track of stuff, and having some great fun. It can get a bit crazy here in Journaland, let me tell ya. Wink

Kristelle

Look forward to hearing about your progress on this diet. BTW, I love country music! Wink

jeff

Heather L

Amanda- Welcome to Journaland. Wow, you have had your share of injuries from training. I hope you are recovered soon. It sounds like you are into lots of different sports... awesome. Cool

Jessica

Welcome! I just reread my own journal over the past week, it really helps!

Jessica

Amanda

Hi everyone and thanks! Kristi im not sure what you meant, a country cub is a private sports club for rich ass think tennis and golf people lol

jeff

Kristelle

Amanda

OK im so excited today, my lifts didnt even really go down and last night while lifting I felt strong and afterwards I just wanted to run forever ( but im trying to avoid running and most cardio..) anyways here are my lifts yesterday which was an upper body day:
barbell bench press: 85x6,105x2,95x6,115x2,85x12 not too bad my reps are low because im going for strength as I diet
barbell bent-over rows: 85x6,105x6,95x6,115x2,85x12
close-grip lateral pulldowns: 120x6, 110x8
dumbell shoulder presses: 20x8,25x8 (my shoulders are growing fast! and its funny because I just had that accident)

I believe that I definately heal faster with this diet than with any other, I can't believe I lost no strength in 4 weeks either, but I was eating at maintenance calories, I want to do that weekend carb up (Anabolic diet)
next weekend but I feel so happy at VLC that I kind of don't want to stop! Anyways we'll see, and I tried a post workout shake of 2 scoops whey (has about 7 carbs though) 2 egg yolks and 2 tbsp heavy cream, it was the best who needs post workout carbs! O and the movie last night was great, its all about steriods in America and how its taken over sports etc and afterwards the director, whose also in the film was there for a Q&A which was awesome, well I plan to do my legs tonight, after work, chow down on some steak and hit it! hope everyone is having a wonderful day!
-amanda

Dean

Hey, surfer girl! Sunny

Awesome workout! You're doin' great! Cool

That movie sounds cool.

I wouldn't sweat a few carbs, but, that carb up sounds hazardous. Shock

Do let us know how it goes. Wink

Amanda

Hey thanks Dean, and yes the carb up is/was dangerous, today I commenced to eat a ton o' carbs, at first I was frightened and I wasn't so sure but I have read of many good results from women on t-nation...anyways yesterday was about 20 carbs about 1997 cal, my lifts yesterday
squat(smith machine): 45lbs each side x6, 70x1, 45x6, 70x1, 50x6,35x12
bulgarian split squats w/DBs: 15x8,15x10,17.5x8
romanian Deadlifts w/barbell:95lbsx8,95x10,105x10
back ext: 10lb plate x10, 10x10
swiss ball crunches :10x10, 10x10

I only did two workout this week, an upper and lower, this coming week, I plan to do 3 total body workouts while I do this diet, So I will lift Tuesday, Friday and Sunday, this will work when I start tennis mornings Monday-Thursday the following week, and as for my diet I plan zero carbs 2000 calories mon-friday, than carb ups of 2500 calories saturday and sunday. Today I ate 2 big blueberry pancakes for breakfast with an egg and skinny vanilla latte, snack- tiny super mini carrot cake muffin my neighbor made minus the frosting, big turkey sandwich for lunch with mustard, late snack of 2 slices raisin bread, plain yogurt, large banana and some papaya, a lean cuisine spaghetti, and I'm actually at 2158 calories so far so I might have a "little" snack late tonight because as of now Im feeling super full.. funny how carbs can fill you if its been so long since youve eaten them...now the only downside, is a bit of bloat, a little headache and kind of not feeling as clear-headed...maybe only one day a week is necessary to carb up but I will see if my weight goes down with two days first than adjust as necessary and If it doesn't work for me at all I'll ditch it, ok well thats all folks, oooo yea and GO LAKERS!!!!!!!

Dean

Kids, don't try this at home! No No

Kristelle

I personally don't believe in the "carb-up" phenomena...but who knows?! With time, I might think otherwise...

I think if a carnivorous , zero-carb diet is to work most effectively, it must be varied and include more than just muscle meat...I'm putting my thinking to a test...more in my journal...

Amanda · New thoughts..

Life lesson #153846: I can't eat many carbs (even when planned) because I lose absolute complete control! Yea...I dont think Im going to be doing that again...basically my carb-up didn't go as planned I ended up in a binge tizzy and I know that maybe this woe- zero carb works best for people with eating disorders, aka myself (ive been bulimic for 4 years) but Im sort of recovering I don't care to be skinny I just binge out of nervousness and maybe the numb feeling and than purge because I realize what I have done, but since becoming a low carber and now a zero carber its amazing the improvement... so anyways Im back having a wonderful zero carb day, had an omlette with cheese in goat butter for breakie, now im eating some hamburger meat in tons of bacon grease (ouch why does bacon grease bite! Cry

) and i think ill have salmon stuffed with bit of feta,spinach) for dinner. Hope everyone was not too frightend by my last post, peace

Dean

Amanda,

I too binge on junk food for emotional reasons. There are others here who do the same. You aren't alone in that struggle, trust me. Thanks for your honesty, and good going getting back on track! Sounds like you have a pretty strong will. Cool

Nicola · Re: New thoughts..

Amanda · Re: New thoughts..

Dean

Amanda,

Wonderful post. Very insightful, honest, and intelligent. Yup

You've got such a great spirit, and it shows in your posts.

I'm really glad you're on the Bus. Cool

Have a great day! Heart

Amanda

Hey Dean Thanks much!

Ok so its been a few days, kinda busy, can't wait to start school monday, ive been out for a whole semester, and that was just lazy and unproductive, I know I need school now, if I want to lead a successful life, at least my older friends tell me (I think most of my friends are 28+), its not the fact that your in school that promises you a well paid job, just the fact that you completed an education shows your a dedicated person/ or at least you made a commitment, you dont necessarily have to go into the field that you majored in...anyways at least one of my very successful friends tells me- he majored in sociology at Penn state now he's an IT but makes close to 300 thousand a year! a sweet deal...anyways I know Im obsessed with biology/human nutrition so Im thinking I need to do this, I didn't complete a single course at college, till this past winter(Im 21 and I actually waited that long), I actually did well, and am pleased with myself (ive always been consisdered intelligent by teachers but just down right lazy and unmotivated lol) Im not Im just uninspired but learning not to be so jaded, anyways Im excited because I have a physical anthropology class this semester and I definately can't wait to get to the role nutrition has played a part in our growth and evolution- we began to evolve and our brains developed eating fat and protein, think lots of marrow and brains!!! anyways so Wednesday I was bad, I ate a lot of fruit and it lead to a mini binge blahh stay away from fruit! but Thursday I weighed in and only gained a .5lb, even from my crazy high carb experiment on sunday so wow not bad but it could be water or muscle maybe fat because its so little, and I did just start lifting last week so I wont even sweat it, I might weigh in monday again to see where I really stand, my bf and I were talking last night and he looked at my hands/arms and was liek your veiny! kinda sweet but I dont want to get too much so...So I was very good Thursday, yesterday and so far today, ooo and Im so excited I found this new sweetener with no calories/ zero effect on blood sugar etc its like stevia but taste wayyy better, Im trying to get off the splenda! its by wholesome sweeteners its called organic erythritol anyways its a lot less sweet but worth a try, alright well think Im moving out of my bf's this week back to my grandmothers (which is like 5 blocks away) I just feel like things aren't going so well, I love him but I just don't feel quite the same, and there is a huge age difference and even life goal difference, etc plus maybe living apart will keep the relationship fresher but Im kidding myself I know I'm going to end up cheating again....Well hope everyone is enjoying the weekend, happy fathers day to those who celebrate it..

jeff

Amanda · Back and Active

Wow! I lasted posted in June... yup... So I'm still battling some issues, but I have really come to realize that VLC, if not Carnivore, is for me!! I'm doing the Feb challenge, so as I can remember that would be:
Allowed
* muscle and fat from any animal (clean, fresh cuts)
* eggs
* butter
* cheese
* dry seasoning
* water/some herbal tea

Disallowed
* no plant matter (except dry seasoning)
* no oils/fats (except animal fat)
* no beverages (except water)
* no condiments
* no artificial sweeteners (oh no! but its got to go!)
* no artificial anything
* no frankenfood or fake food

Yup, but as I've said why is splenda so addictive! Like crack, damn I will give up cigarettes, anything for some SPLENDA! Why did I ever get started.. Ok well I was on Charles board for a second till I was sick of getting beat up over there...man some of the chicks there really didn't like me, sorry If I'm not perfect but as Bear has said this way of eating has not been ingrained since our childhood, were use to the junk that has become the norm for society... Anyways I'm gonna keep track on here again, it helps... I have to admit, I'm still battling my ED, and I broke up with my ex a month ago but its been a mean break up to the point where I want to starve myself- Like I need to lose this weight now!!! So I can show him... I'm being childish but I can't help it (WHINES) Ok so today no starving at all haha
Cardio in the morning for 1/2 hour
2:30pm- 2 eggs plus 1 yolk, 2 slices bacon, 1oz goat cheese, 2 tbsp ghee (getting the fat up, protein down- part of my goal this month)
coffee like freaking 3 times today at work with some splenda's and cream (which is ok)
6pm- few slices proscuitto and shaved romano cheese at work- off a pizza that got wasted
10:30pm- 8oz ny steak, not fatty enough!
1 bone with marrow broiled
leftover I had to eat- 2-3oz top sirloin in red wine and olive oil
1/2 oz goat cheese

Cardio tonight again for 15-20 mins than weights on my lower body quick and higher reps tonight.. ugh I have to fill in for my co-worker tomorrow morning, eventually I'll get some sleep.... good night everyone!

y0u

Hi Amanda. Just thought I would visit your journal. I am an old lady now (43) but I have had some of the issues you have had, just a really long time ago. Now I'm just fat...haha. It sounds like your doing pretty good though, just keep tabs on the starving yourself part, your a bright beautiful young woman, treat yourself well.

Glad you've joined the February challenge I think it's a good one that is lenient enough to fit everyones needs. Don't sweat the Splenda, if that is what it takes to keep you on track, let it be. I can think of much worse things to eat.

Keep up the great work!, y0u Smile

Heather L

Amanda- Sorry to hear about the mean break up. Are there really any easy ones? I think that using those feeling to push you forward, and work on yourself can be healthy. Hang in there.

Amanda

Hi Y0U
Yes Heather break ups suck! mine was koo koo crazy, and he is such a $%#$#@$#@... Seriously If I see him anytime soon I'm literally going to punch him in the face Shock

Ok Welllll yesterday sucked because I messed up...what is wrong with me!!! I did good all day but I have a couple of things that might make sense, 1. I only had 3 hours of sleep yesterday (that can kill me) 2. After work I did a crazy workout at krav maga for an hour of non stop kicking, punching, pylo work etc. and than I didn't feel like eating, I wasn't hungry- as usual when I binge actually... And than I though well it wouldn't be wrong to eat full fat greek yogurt, and I ate the whole container than commenced to eat a ton of junk afterwards... I did purge too... which is horrible and I hate it! I do have a feeling when I work out too much and for some reason lifting weights makes me binge, what is all that about- I think If I'm gonna get normal and lose weight I'm actually gonna have to cut the high intensity workouts... And I want to be normal like everyone else Cry

I want to eat zero carb and "if" I screw up a little not go crazy like I did, like just accept it and move on... Anyways, I have to move on- I really gotta stop counting calories too I get all freaked out and obsessed like crazy.. Ok so today I got up ran errands
First meal was 30mins ago- I had 3 eggs with some heavy cream, 2 slices bacon, finished off all cheese by having a slice, than I was messing around with these pork ribs (trying to figure out a good way to make em) and I had a couple broiled with Franks hot sauce- good! So I won't be home till 10 tonight, hopefully I don't get hungry I don't like to eat at work. And for dinner I'll either eat the rest of those ribs or a ribeye in the fridge...ok I'll check back later to make sure I don't screw up again, have a good day everyone!

jeff

Hang in there, Amanda. Yeah, only getting 3 hours of sleep is a killer. Try not to let that happen too often. Exercise is good, but studies actually show that it really doesn't do a whole lot for weight loss. In Good Calories, Bad Calories Gary Taubes talks about this and says exercise just makes most people hungrier.

Try not to worry about calories. Just try to eat mostly fatty meat. Eat only when hungry. Eat until you're full. That's about it.

Dean

Amanda,

Don't beat yourself up about anything. You don't need that!

My suggestion would be to completely forget about counting calories, carbs, the whole thing. That is just unnecessary obsessive crap you can drop like the bad habit it is, as I'm sure you know. Here's what you oughta try. Make a list of the foods you will allow yourself to eat, and try your best to stick to eating from that list. If you are not including any carbs, but, instead, including lots of fatty meats that you like, fixed the way you like 'em, with seasonings you like, you should be able to eat until you are full, and the fatty meat will satiate you enough that you will start to feel calm.

And, absolutely the most important thing. Snooze

You won't make it on less than eight hours at this point. Gotta have that rest, Amanda! Without it, you are just setting yourself up for stress in a big way. Stress will cause these issues to manifest themselves. It's not your fault, it's the stress. Get the rest you need. You will be able to handle things much easier with it.

Anyway, take this advice or pieces of it, and try it on for size. Just keep trying and don't ever give up. You have nothing to be ashamed about. Your situation will get better. I hope you are talking with somebody that will help. If you don't have someone like that, please find somebody. Don't settle for less than someone who will really help you. You deserve that. Yup

Take care of you, Amanda. You are so worth it. Cool

Heather L

Stress and lack of sleep can make us more likely to do things we don't mean to do. I actually feel better after exercise, but if it triggers you then I would avoid it when you are feeling stressed, or go with something less intense.

Jeff and Dean made some awesome points. I think we all have times where we need ways to decompress. I hope today goes better for you. Sunny

Amanda

Thanks you guys, And Dean thank you for all your advice and support, it means a lot! You guys are sooo supportive here, unlike my experiences elsewhere...
Anyways, yes sleep was a huge factor in that mess up... So I have decided that I'm going all meat, I feel like I need to cut dairy right now (If it somehow affects my bingeing- so that its worse, or If I feel worse etc. I can always add it back in, but so far I'm not really missing it). Although I'm not really cutting it all out, still using some heavy cream and If I want butter or ghee...
So yesterday was ok, kinda was bad- because I had too much vodka, however I tend to do ok with alcohol when trying to lose weight, the only problem with alcohol is I'm using it to forget right now...
So yesterday I had Brunch- 2 eggs and 2 slices bacon, and some pork ribs. At work late I had a chicken breast- its actually not the best option since it has very little skin and its probably a ton of protein, but i was hungry. So afterwards I just wanted to drink so bad I had some vodka, diet red bull, ended up going out with friends till 2:30am, had about 3 more vodkas. Than when I got home I was hungry, and funny when I'm really drunk I can understand my thoughts better- kind of like when I use to smoke weed a bit, I overanalyze and things "come to me". However I'm definitely more impulsive which is not good for me... So I thought I was hungry and decided to eat something, I had a piece of bacon, an egg and some rib eye really quick and felt sooo good I realized that I let the idea of bingeing cross my mind hence that is the problem, why do I let it even cross my mind! as If I actually allow it to be an option! But I felt so complete with just meat or whatever...
So today was good, I had leftover pork country style ribs with some hot sauce and 1 slice bacon (just trying to finish that off too), and marrow from a bone (I like to just broil it and eat the runny marrow mmmm) and at work I ate someone's left over rib eye and half a piece of salmon from a salmon dinner made by accident (love working at a restaurant) now I'm home exhausted I want to just pass out however I want to broil a small piece of lamb I've had marinating in the fridge since Sunday... so I think I might just try some ahh actually I think I passing out now...and that is all besides the coffee's I had today with cream, thats the next thing I'll attack once everything else is tackled.. once again, everyone here rocks! GOOD NIGHT!!!

jeff

I hope you got some good rest.

Amanda

Hey Jeff thanks, that I did, I didn't get to eat some lamb last night, which is better anyways. I feel asleep and didn't get up till 12pm.. Now i have to get ready for work. So I weighed in today and I'm mad because I'm fat, my starting weight is 171 (2-5-08). However I did have that huge binge the other night, and I weighed about 169 last month when I was binge drinkng and hardly eating, right now I'm being good and stable. Eating my meat and that is all.
Breakfast- 6oz lamb leg (it was tough still despite the way my manager told me to make it, but not to bad I marinated for a few days in red wine vinegar, salt, pepper, oregano, rosemary and garlic that was sauteed in olive oil than crushed)
Still a bit hungry so I had 2 eggs, with 2 strips of bacon (finished off all the bacon now, see how long I can do without it)
So I have to go to work soon, thinking of eating a kobe burger at work late tonight or the ribeye left in my fridge... Its raining right now :( So I wonder If I'll get to go to the gym tonight after work... Ok everyone is doing good and eating their meat Grin

Dean

jeff

Amanda, how tall are you? Because I think you lookd great. Really.

Heather L

Amanda- Don't be too hard on yourself. I think you look fabulous in your pictures. Yup

Amanda

Aww wow thanks again everyone
Jeff- I am just a mm shy of 5'8, so yeah I am a bit taller, and I actually have quite a bit of muscle from lifting
Well I feel bad about tonight because after work I did have a glass of wine, because my friend was all down and dragged me to a wine bar... but i guess its no real biggie, It stop raining and since I do not have to work tomorrow I might go to the gym in an hour, although its late, it will make me feel better..
So afterwards I waited an hour now I completely sober but hungry of course, So I made a bit of ribye on a bone probably 4oz, and 2 oz lamb leg and an egg, and I had about 2-3oz ribeye at work leftover from a dinner (Im such a scavanger everyone knows to save good ribeyes and stuff for me lol). So yeah I'm pretty good with the dairy besides the bit in my coffee and sometimes eggs, but one day at a time!!! you guys rock!

jeff

Amanda

Dean

jeff

Amanda

Uhh Ohh, you too Jeff!! Well I'm not truly or necessarily an alcoholic, and I hope you aren't either ( as I have a close friend who really is and its really sad and pathetic when he drinks) however I tend to well- overindulge when I drink, its not all the time but its when I get together with co-workers or groups of friends, usually I try to just take it easy on weekends- do something else like the movies, sports, work- get home late, rent a movie, homework, internet! whatever, its saves me the headache and money!

Ok well I'm officially back on the bus after those couple days of a detour... which wasn't too bad, so two days- fair enough- at least there was no bingeing or ED behavior! yeah!! So today was my first day back to work after 3 days, and all meat today Yup

And I'm reading Hells Angels by Hunter S. Thompson because he is my favorite writer. I just saw Gonzo- based on his life and loved it too. He's so gutsy and nutso you have to love him, and I believe in Hells Angels, as documented, they did party with the merry pranksters- which had to be crazy! I want to read more, I have a huge list but I need to get down on it. actually I started school this week and have class tomorrow which blows because I need to be up at 9:30 but I'm not tired!! Ok Well at least some aspects of my life are back to normal... hope everyone isn't freezing like we are here in "California"- actually no joke its like 40 degrees, I wanna hibernate!!!!!