The Magic Bus Trip

MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

I am SO pissed off right now!!

Today was my first dental cleaning since going carnivore and I was actually looking forward to it...thinking that the hygienist would notice a difference in the quality of my teeth.

Instead, the cleaning itself was horrific - I had terrible buildup of mineral deposits which were very hard to remove and then I found out I have FOUR cavities!!! WTF!! I've had one cavity in the last twenty years.

Regular cleanings and suddenly I have FOUR? I don't understand it, I really don't. If I was pounding down the sugar or carbs, sure, but seriously...what the hell?

I in no way think that ZC is to blame (quite the contrary) but it just doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, they are all very new and very small at this point. The dentist is of course pushing me to fill them immediately but after recently having a crown I am in no hurry to face all the needles and drilling again.

Here is my question - The dentist says it is impossible to reverse or stop the progress of the decay, that it will only spread. I've read a few sites online already that claim to have the secrets of reversing tooth decay, but I'm looking for personal experiences. Anyone have any?

I'm not big on flossing - it's haphazard at best... perhaps meat has been lodging between my teeth and rotting, creating the decay? I can't figure it out, since if anything my teeth cleaning habits have improved over the years and I'm no longer eating a SAD diet.

Any insight is welcome - thanks for listening.....rant over.

Oh - the day was not completely lost, my butcher made me very happy - feast your eyes on these beauties Heart

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jeff · Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:30 am Post subject:

Great looking meat, MM. Yup

Sorry, can't offer much about your teeth. Although, I have noticed that I seem to get a bit more buildup than I use to.

You might try flossing. It can't hurt.
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Jessica · Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:53 am Post subject:

I didn't have a cavity since 7th grade, then many years later had 5! I couldn't believe it. Looking back I shouldn't have gotten them fixed. I had just been to a dentist 1 year before, with none. And I had been going to him every year.

I was on an anti-candida list, and the woman was very wise and said that when you clean up the excess candida in your body, your body "retraces" everything in your body. Earaches, rashes, diahhrea, pains in your body, EVERYTHING! I think that those small cavities were maybe in there, and came to the surface.

Since it was a new dentist i've never been to before, I don't know, I think it's weird that I got like 5 in 1 year, it made no sense. I hate to say it, but I felt like it was kind of fishy.

I've heard you can rebuild the dentin on your teeth.

Just my humble opinion.

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Weigh in: 306.0 - up .8 lbs Cry

May weigh in again tomorrow to see if I get the same result....may just throw the scale out the window.

MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

I did weigh in again - the weight remains the same. Next week will be better.

I am not a big drinker (anymore) but I've been noticing some strange reactions when I do enjoy a drink so I've been avoiding it for months. Last night, I really just wanted to enjoy a beer so I tried again.

The reaction was quick (within 5 minutes or so) and very obvious. My husband looked at me in shock and told me to go to a mirror. I looked as if I had been in a bad fight and had been punched in the face several times. From the top of my nose, down under my eyes to my cheeks and sides of my face were all swollen and bright red.

The rash lasted about an hour or so and during that time I felt like I was sitting under a heat lamp, very uncomfortable.

For the last few years I've been getting flush when drinking (even half a daiquiri) but this is the worse I've ever seen/felt.

It's a sad day....guess I'm officially alcohol free from now on. Sad

y0u · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject:

I am allergic to certain types of alcohol..I get the same reaction..well..almost..except worse..my throat closes after the rash.

It's steel barrel chardonnay and potato vodka for me..and not very often.
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runningdog · Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:26 am Post subject:

MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

Weigh in: 305.4 - Still .2lbs higher than 2 weeks ago Cry

I'm sick - just a really bad cold but it's got me down.

I'm thinking about giving up cheese to see if I can snap out of this weight gain thing. I don't know if it will help but I feel like I need to do something.

Jessica · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:24 am Post subject:

y0u · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:43 am Post subject:

MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

I've been under a lot of stress lately, and I've also been sick for the last few days. Couple that with my recent gain instead of loss and it was a combo for disaster. I could feel myself breaking...my will slipping away.

What I did was certainly not the best solution but it seemed to me at the time, one I could live with. I went out to eat with my DH and consciously decided to go off plan for the meal. I still ate rare steak as my main course but also ate the sides and a few teaspoons of dessert. I felt that if I allowed myself permission to eat anything I wanted for only one meal I would be able to ward off a possible fall flat on my face carb binge.

Overall, I think I was successful. I thoroughly enjoyed the meal and didn't feel guilty about it and I was back to basics the next morning.

Observations: I did not get sick or have any real negative side affects from the meal. I felt completely stuffed for about an hour and got a slight headache but I was prepared for much worse. I had some gas the next morning and the scale was up 2lbs but this was also expected. I initially ordered my own dessert but after a few tastes, I felt overwhelmed and didn't want to finish it - I gave it to my hubby. It still tasted delicious but I just couldn't handle very much of it.

This is the first time that an off-plan meal/cheat/whatever you want to call it, did not completely derail me. I was pretty stupid to test my luck as the last time I did this I spent weeks out of control - unable to get back on track.

I just won't allow that to happen again. Anyway - so there it is.

I'm back on track and trying to keep fairly basic now as I want to get back to losing. I've given up cheese temporarily to see if that helps at all and I'm going to simplify as much as possible. Pretty much just Ribeye's and wings for a while. I'm also going to try once again to lower my portion size a bit.

I made my second batch of stock/bone broth last night and I'm loving it! Being sick, it's a wonderful thing to sip on and I'm hoping to also benefit from the additional nutrients as well. I plan on saving all my chicken bones and doing this often from now on. I could easily drink several glasses a day (and it's not even cold out).

I'm also going to get back to the exercising (I hate sounding like a broken record) but I am....really I am. I'm so tired of being so tired!! I don't want to feel lethargic anymore and while I know lowering my insulin is helping I need a boost....exercise will do that for me, I'm sure of it. If only I could get a small one before hand to get me out of this chair LOL

On the tooth front, I've switched from conventional toothpaste to tooth soap, I'm flossing religiously and I've also ordered a high vitamin butter oil/fermented cod liver oil supplement per Weston Price's findings on reversing tooth decay. My only concern with this supplement is that it is a chocolate flavored gel (flavored with organic cocoa and stevia). This supplement is very expensive and the swallow-able capsules have far less vitamins and less servings than the gel so I opted for the gel. I could have gotten the unflavored but I know it would be a huge waste of money to buy it and then not use it because of taste. Hopefully the small amount won't send me into massive chocolate cravings!

That's all I have to report for now - onward and forward!!

kateryna · Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:40 pm Post subject:

MM glad you're back on plan. I'm reading Barry Groves "Trick and Treat" and he mentioned that beef (protein that he mentioned) is beneficial in keeping blood glucose in check BUT even the addition of 50 grams of beef caused a 3 fold rise in mean insulin levels which would not go down for up to 6 hours. His point was that lowering protein and increasing fat was more beneficial.

I'm out of my league here but it seems that blood glucose and insulin levels are two differeent dynamics that are creating a roller coaster effect on some of us.

I'm glad you are back on track. Keep us posted. Sunny

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Kate - I've got that book but haven't had any time to get into it yet.

Can you elaborate a bit on the protein levels?

To say I love my beef is an understatement...I hate to think I could be spiking my insulin levels with too much protein though. Does he give recommendations for intake?

Thanks for the insight Kate.

Just a note for reference: I ate my wings unseasoned tonight, definitely missed some flavor but still yummy nonetheless. I also ate quite a bit more of them than usual, I thought this was odd but...whatever, just going with the flow.

kateryna · Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:47 am Post subject:

Can't elaborate anymore on that point because that was all he said basically. I'm almost finished and I'll go back to that part again and see if it's any more clear to me.
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Kate - i pulled out my book and checked out that section and you're right, not much more info than that.

I emailed him to see if he can shed a little more insight into it - I'll let you know if he responds.

kateryna · Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject:

I'm soooo glad you did that and I'm waiting to hear the response. Yup

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MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

Weigh in: 306.0

August was a complete wash - weigh in on August 1st was 306.0. A big fat ZERO pounds lost for the month. Livid

I'm pissed and I'm motivated!! Not going to happen again.

Goals for September:

Physical activity at least 3 days per week to include: Treadmill, Light Weights, Wii Fit, Walking. I don't care what I do as long as I get moving for 30 minutes.

I'm giving up cheese for the month - I want to accelerate my weight loss if possible and although I think I tolerate cheese just fine, I do have a habit of overeating it and using it to snack on.

Portion control - I only eat two meals a day but I overeat often. I still don't have a clear 'full' feeling until after a meal, and then sometimes I feel stuffed. I also have a bad habit of eating more food when I'm on the fence about whether or not I'm still hungry simply because I like the taste of what I'm eating. I'm going to work on being more aware of my hunger...or lack of.

I want to see the 200's next month!!

That's it - back to kickin' ass and takin' names!!

Whip

y0u · Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject:

Sounds like you have some good goals laid out there.

I know it's not fun but have you considered calorie restriction at all?
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MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

y0u - it's actually been in the back of my mind for some time. I just don't want to believe it's necessary. I WANT to be like Jeff and eat all the calories I want and not worry about it but clearly that doesn't work for everyone. My main issue with it is that whenever I consciously cut back I get so obsessive about food - all I can think about is my next meal and how much I can eat - it really sucks. I may do it anyway - at least to experiment and see how it affects me. I may be eating too much protein too...

I think I may start tracking my food with fitday and start some experimenting. I may also try the one meal a day method. I'll definitely post my results here if I do either.

y0u · Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject:

I understand your dilema.

I on the other hand..obsessively track my food on fitday.1500- 1600 calories with very certain ratios seems to be the ticket for me..along with a TON of exercise. Yes..I am hungry sometimes..but I want to be thin more than I want to eat too much.

It would be nice to have a normal metabolism..but neither of us do. Cry

Good luck with whatever you decide..I'm here to support you. Big Hug

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kateryna · Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject:

MM - I track on fitday too and it hasn't led to an obsession. I find that it's not the calories so much as the ratios of fat to protein. If I notice that my protein is higher than my fat I make sure I add fat.

Something I've noticed this week is this weird craving I'm having for butter. I'll be sitting there reading or surfing the net and all of a sudden I need a teaspoon of just butter. No other cravings Grin

So we should listen to our bodies to a certain degree.

I love your attitude though: checking out all options and NEVER giving up. Willeke and I went through all these same issues for years and I think both of us have finally tweaked ourselves into a plan we can both live with and whicih allows us to lose weight, albiet slowly.

Comfort

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jeff · Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:25 am Post subject:

Some people claim that exercise actually hinders weight loss. I really don't know.
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MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

After plugging some numbers into Fitday just for fun, I've decided that I'm going to cut portion sizes for a while and see what happens.

My ratio's look good - and I'm definitely getting enough fat but my calories have been super high and I may also be getting more protein than I need.

I'll be tracking everything in Fitday and posting a summary for each week along with the results.

Today was day one, and it's not horrible so far. I definitely would have liked to have eaten more at each meal but I don't think I needed to. I'm not feeling famished or anything Wink

We'll see how it goes.

Thanks everyone for your support and encouragement - I really appreciate it!

Heather L · Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject:

MM- This sounds like an excellent plan. Let us know how things go with it.

y0u · Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject:

MM..just checking in to see how you are doing with your new plan of sorts... I wouldn't worry about the fat part too much. In my case anyway..when I stopped adding EXTRA fat to stuff, my calories automatically went down..now I get about 67% fat..not 80%...it took an adjustment period..but the results were lots of weight loss...and I felt full again after a week or 2.

Hope this all works out. Heart

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MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

I made a bad judgment call yesterday and I faltered...Hubby has been asking for home baked cookies for months now and I have been waiting until I thought I was strong enough to handle it (especially that smell flowing through the house). I have been making him homemade milkshakes several times a week and doing just fine so I figured it was time for the cookie test.

I failed Cry

Oh well...lesson learned and he'll just have to keep eating the store bought ones for a while.

Good news is that I'm back in action today, and I'm back to my restricting calories experiment. I checked the scale this morning and I didn't show any gain from yesterday so that gives me hope.

I've finished my eating for today and I'm not hungry but I definitely want to eat. I contemplated cooking a frozen burger but decided that I don't need it. I think I've just gotten used to eating large amounts of food because I can and it's going to take a little time to adjust to only eating what I need.

I'm really curious to see what this week will show and I plan on continuing for a while to give it a fair chance.

I don't think that my lapse yesterday has anything to do with the smaller portions - I think it was purely a result of the smell. It made me weak in the knees and I relented to it's sultry seduction, but I've cut off the affair and I'm back to prudence! (I'm practicing for a shot to debut in y0u's new book about her burning loins) LOL

y0u · Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:55 am Post subject:

That chapter will be called MetalMamas Loins of Lust... Devil

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MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

First week of restricted calories is done and although I won't call it a success until I see how I do the next few weeks - I will say this...I am absolutely thrilled with the immediate results.

Weigh in: 301.8 - loss of 4.2 lbs

This is really incredible for me - I just don't ever see that kind of loss in a week so I'm very happy. I'm hoping this trend will continue.

Tracked everything in Fitday and average calories are 1500, with fat at 70%

I will continue keeping my calories at this level until it stops working. I'm doing ok with eating less although I always am left wanting more but the weight loss is my goal right now and clearly this has kicked it into high gear.

Grin

Special thanks to y0u for encouraging me to try this!! Yup

y0u · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:33 am Post subject:

I hope it continues to work for you. If not...I never said a word..yah..I'm stickin with that story..uh huh... Grin

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kateryna · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:50 am Post subject:

jeff · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject:

That's great news, MM. Glad things are moving.
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MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

Weigh in: 301.4 Loss of .4 pounds

This was not a perfect restricted calorie week, I'm struggling with it. I think it's the way I need to proceed though to keep the weight loss moving so I'm sticking with it.

Hopefully I'll do better next week and see a larger loss.

kateryna · Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:29 am Post subject:

y0u · Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:14 pm Post subject:

and...y0u are so close to being in the 200's..I feel it coming very soon. Stick with it MM...it will get easier. Yup

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surfergirl · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:31 am Post subject:

So happy for your loss! YaY! I was going through such a long stall which is now over.
I can't make homemade cookies here either, the dough would do me in at the vanilla extract stage.
You just never know that crazy combination of fat/protein that seems to unlock those zany fat cells. My combination changes. This time I upped fat, but it took a few days.
Hey....hows that chocolate fish gel working for your teeth? I may get that stuff if you endorse it. Would be great mixed with butter Wink

My fish oil taste like greasy lemon Pledge.
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MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

Surfergirl - the fish gel is AWFUL! LOL

I can't believe I was worried about cravings from it, it's so bad that I just scoop out a portion and swallow it as quick as I can.

Now keep in mind that I've never taken the stuff plain so perhaps this flavor is heaven compared to your greasy lemon pledge but it's certainly not a taste to savor - haha.

surfergirl · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:

I guess I'll holds off on that purchase!
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I watched him eating his lunch of fried chicken with waffle fries like I was watching bad porn...it was gross and wrong in so many ways, but at the same time a little bit titillating.

When he began dipping his frosted brownie into the whip cream floating like clouds on top of his milkshake... I became entranced.

I could think of nothing else and followed the spoon to his mouth...imagining my own taste buds savoring the sweet concoction.

Coming back to reality I realized that I had been caught staring...like a schoolboy peeping through a bathroom window, red faced with embarrassment and guilt.

He shot me a sly grin, muffled a laugh, and said coyly "living with me is hell isn't it?" I answered flatly, without hesitation..."yes, yes it is."

y0u · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:38 am Post subject:

MM..your last post sounds like a harlequin romance book... Grin

but can you get him to rub the stuff on your creamy white thighs?
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surfergirl · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject:

whoa. waffle fries. brownies. yum......*Snaps back to reality*
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Karen G · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject:

Ok, now I'm hungry and horny Happy

Seriously, you deserve an award for watching that and not partaking...
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MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

I f'd up big time. BIG TIME!! Oops

Pretty much did a full out carb binge which I haven't done in a while. It's over now but I've got some ground to regain. I'm not going to post my weight again until I'm back down where I was.

I think some of my problem recently is the lower calories. Although I think it's just what I need I was really struggling with it. So I've decided to step up my IF efforts.

I've been eating two meals a day (18/6) for a while but it doesn't jive well with counting calories for me. I feel deprived at each meal and think about when I can eat next. I think going to just one evening meal will help this as I can pretty much stuff myself then. I'm hoping that knowing I can eat a really large meal in a few hours will get me through the lunch time.

I'll keep tabs on this adventure in here and hopefully it will be successful.

jeff · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject:

One really big meal may work better for you. Any way of eating that leaves you feeling deprived will fail.
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surfergirl · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject:

Hey MM!
That sounds like a good idea. Should work well.
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kateryna · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:01 am Post subject:

Yes getting back into it requires stuffing yourself with allowed food. Anyway, what Jeff said.

Don't worry about calories/amounts right now.
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Today went ok - had a massive headache most of the day but I'm sure that's just from the detoxing rather than not eating.

I did fail to think of one detail though - the hubby. He already thinks I need to cut back on my fat and up my exercise, and here I consumed a massive meal. He clearly didn't feel like starting an argument (for which I'm grateful) but couldn't stop staring at my food with disgust.

I'm not letting him in on the fact that I'm only eating once a day (it would only fuel his desire to get me back to 'healthy' eating) so I'm going to have to work around him. I think what I'll do is snack on some food while I'm cooking for the family (some cold bacon or cold steak would be perfect) and then eat a more normal sized meal with him.

I still have the headache and otc stuff is not making a dent in it. I'm hoping it will be gone in the morning. I hate that I abused myself and my poor body so much this weekend but what is done is done. I actually kept trying to imagine my insulin spiking when I was cheating but it was no use - I fell into the mindset of 'oh well, I've already cheated so I'm going to eat everything I've missed and craved'. Blech... Puke

Karen G · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject:

Hope you feel better, MM. Good luck with the IF and with the hubby, it must be difficult to live with someone who doesn't support your WOE... Big Hug

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Thanks Karen - it's TOUGH living with him and trying to stay on plan, but I do ok most of the time.

Snacked while I cooked tonight and it worked out fine.

Woke up with another headache but I'm down 2lbs of water weight so that's good.

kateryna · Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:09 am Post subject:

Hang in there MM Yup

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MetalMama · Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female

Still IF'ing and it's going ok. I have a definite love/hate relationship with eating one meal a day. At around 11:30am I absolutely HATE it, but come 5pm I'm in love - haha.

I do get hungry around lunchtime (my stomach starts growling) and everyday I consider just throwing in the towel on this experiment and eating but I'm keeping up with it so far. It's hard getting past that noon hour.

I've come to realize that my problem with overeating (or what I perceive as overeating) is that I don't 'eat till full' as so many prescribe. I eat until stuffed. I think I just enjoy that stuffed to the gills feeling. I also don't seem to be able to tell when I'm full. I'm sure that sounds really bizarre to most people but whatever mechanism we have for regulating our fuel tank is clearly broken in me.

I've tried several times to take a break and see if I feel full...and sometimes I do, but then I think - but I could easily eat more...so am I really full? I also will continue eating things because they just taste so good I don't want to NOT eat - regardless of actual hunger. It's a problem.

All of this is what is encouraging me to continue with this one meal a day experiment for a while. It is giving me a chance to see what hungry feels like and also allows me to eat all my calories at one time and achieve that 'full' feeling I seem to need to be satisfied. Although...and this is shocking to even me...sometimes even that is not enough. I will eat 1500 calories in one meal and STILL want to eat more. What the heck is wrong with me? Is my stomach that stretched out?

I have great hopes that someday I will be able to just eat good food when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full and not worry or calculate food anymore!

Weight loss has stopped - still about 4lbs higher than I was before my cheat/binge/disaster Cry

but it's TOM so I'm hoping that's the holdup.

Onward!!