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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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food yesterday (Saturday)
rib roast w/sea salt and blue cheese butter
pot roast in enchilada sauce
chix wings in hot sauce and butter
1 Miller Lite
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Nooooo, jeff....Heather is trying though (daughter)!!!
(When did you change your avatar?)
3/21
Coffee
HC
Cheddar Cheese
Water
Brisket
Cabbage
Onions
Water
Green Tea
Black Cherry Shasta
(Bloated today, my one cooking meal for the year for the family, St. Paddy's Day, and the following weekend. YAY...everyone is tired of corned beef) _________________ Bobi
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jeff

Location: Milton, Wisconsin, USA Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 6067 Born: 10 March 1960 Gender: Male
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Nooooo, jeff....Heather is trying though (daughter)!!!
(When did you change your avatar?) |
Are you sure you're not pregnant? Ok, just checking. I changed my avatar a few days ago. It's my favorite coffee mug, a gift from a very dear friend. I figured you guys were getting tired of looking a my naked sweaty body.  _________________ Eat, Drink and Be Merry, For Tomorrow We'll Die |
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| jeff wrote: | | I figured you guys were getting tired of looking a my naked sweaty body. | what are you.... nuts?
your tummy is like sunshine.. must have it, everyday! ;) _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Lynne wrote: | | jeff wrote: | | I figured you guys were getting tired of looking a my naked sweaty body. | what are you.... nuts?
your tummy is like sunshine.. must have it, everyday! ;) |
You're nuts, jeff...too much libation last nite?!  _________________ Bobi
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jeff

Location: Milton, Wisconsin, USA Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 6067 Born: 10 March 1960 Gender: Male
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Bobi wrote: | | Lynne wrote: | | jeff wrote: | | I figured you guys were getting tired of looking a my naked sweaty body. | what are you.... nuts?
your tummy is like sunshine.. must have it, everyday! ;) |
You're nuts, jeff...too much libation last nite?!  |
Ok, I"ll bring it back at some point.  _________________ Eat, Drink and Be Merry, For Tomorrow We'll Die |
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Valcan

Location: Near Edmonton, Canada Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 264 Born: 18 April 1965 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Edmonton Eskimos! Go team! |
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jeff

Location: Milton, Wisconsin, USA Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 6067 Born: 10 March 1960 Gender: Male
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Valcan wrote: | | Edmonton Eskimos! Go team! |
Hey, somebody recognized the logo! _________________ Eat, Drink and Be Merry, For Tomorrow We'll Die |
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Valcan

Location: Near Edmonton, Canada Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 264 Born: 18 April 1965 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jeff,
I actually prefer the Saskatchewan Roughriders. They don't mess around with coffee cups - they are all about the beer mug!
Val |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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3/22
Coffee
HC
Water
Cheese
Chicken
Green Tea
Shasta Black Cherry
Still stuffed from Brisket, yesterday  _________________ Bobi
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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today's food:
roast beef
pot roast n/enchilada sauce
i'm fighting an ice cream craving.... _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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jeff

Location: Milton, Wisconsin, USA Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 6067 Born: 10 March 1960 Gender: Male
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Valcan wrote: | Hi Jeff,
I actually prefer the Saskatchewan Roughriders. They don't mess around with coffee cups - they are all about the beer mug!
Val |
I have an Eskimos beer mug and shot glass as well. A complete set, for all my drinking needs.  _________________ Eat, Drink and Be Merry, For Tomorrow We'll Die |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Day 22
food
2 slices bacon
3 eggs fried
2 oz string cheese
1/2 pound shrimp
1/4 pound scallops
1 tbs butter
3 oz salmon
Calories 1,211, carbs 8.2, carbs 3%, fat 56%, protein 41% _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Day 23
Food
3 large eggs fried in bacon fat
4 strips bacon
1/2 avocado
4 oz NY strip
8 oz pork chop
1 oz heavy cream
1 oz chevre
coffee
Calories 1,692, carbs 8.5, carbs 2%, fat 69%, protein 29%
Haven't been eating enough fat..need more bacon lube.  _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:05 am Post subject: |
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3/23
Same-o...same-o...I might as well just cut & paste!!!
Coffee
HC
Water
Cheese
Chicken
Orange Green Tea _________________ Bobi
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: |
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we're such a colourful bunch!
roast beef
pot roast in enchilada sauce
ground beef w/enchilada sauce _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Day 23 (revised)
Food
3 large eggs fried in bacon fat
6 strips bacon
6 oz NY strip
1/2 avocado
1 oz heavy cream
Calories 1,351, carbs 8.7, carbs 2%, fat 77%, protein 21% _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Day 24
Food
3 large fried eggs
2 sausage patties
2 cups hot and sour soup
1 tbs butter
1 oz heavy cream
1 oz tallow
1/4 cup sauerkraut (home made)
calories 1,568, carbs 4.1, carbs 1%, fat 81%, protein 18%
Being fat sucks....I am fu#king tired of it. _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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MetalMama

Location: GA Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 564 Gender: Female
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| y0u wrote: | | Being fat sucks....I am fu#king tired of it. |
My sentiments exactly... |
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Tuesday:
roast beef
butter
chix wings w/hot sauce & butter
2 miller lites _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:53 am Post subject: |
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3/24
Coffee
HC
Cheese
Tuna & Mayo
Chicken
Water, water _________________ Bobi
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Day 24 (adjusted)
Food
3 large fried eggs
2 sausage patties
2 cups hot and sour soup
1 tbs butter
1 oz heavy cream
Not very much food..I will be hungry...but I just have to make the scale move if it kills me..I will drink coffee to kill my appetite..don't really care about much else right now.
calories 1,433, carbs 2.6, carbs 1%, fat 80%, protein 19%
I am doing 150 crunches , and 2 hours of walking and 30 min of aerobics daily...I will get thin no matter what..dammit..fuggin dammit.. _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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wednesday eats
pot roast for breakfast.
and for lunch.
dinner: burger w/sl cheese, 1/2 sour pickle _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: |
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3/25
Coffee
HC
Water
Shasta Orange
Green Tea
Italian Chicken
Cheddar Cheese _________________ Bobi
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Day 25
Food
12 oz hot n sour soup
1 egg fried in butter
1 sausage patty
Beef cracklings
1 oz cream
.5 oz chevre
Broccoli experiment 1 cup raw
calories 1,434, carbs 7.6, carbs 2%, fat 81%, protein 17%
I threw up. _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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jeff

Location: Milton, Wisconsin, USA Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 6067 Born: 10 March 1960 Gender: Male
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Must've been the broccoli.  _________________ Eat, Drink and Be Merry, For Tomorrow We'll Die |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Day 26
Food
Beef cracklings
8 oz rib eye
8 hot wing sections with sauce and bleu cheese dressing
1 oz heavy cream
1/2 cup home made yogurt made out of heavy cream and water
1 cup raw broccoli
coffee w/ cream
calories 1,771, carbs 10, carbs 2%, fat 74%, protein 24%
Did not throw up..no tummy ache...yet
My legs feel like spaghetti _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:18 am Post subject: |
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3/26
Coffee
HC
Water
Cheddar Cheese
Chicken
Orange Shasta
Orange Green Tea _________________ Bobi
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thusday's food:
burger patty for breakfast
chuck steak w/blue cheese butter for dinner
eating a lot of protein.
sleeping extremely well.
have never felt better as i have in the last 3 months!! _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Day 27
Food
8 oz rib eye
3 egg omelette
2 oz ham
2 oz swiss
1 cup raw broccoli
1 tbs butter
1/2 cup home made yogurt made from cream
more heavy cream
tea
A friend brought me a dozen eggs from her friends farm..wow..I had forgotten what a difference there is. So rich and tasty..the yolks almost orange. Wish I could get them more often. The shells were so hard to crack..must be healthy chickens.
calories 1,684, carbs 11.5, carbs 3%, fat 76%, protein 21%
I woke up this morning..and I was still fat... _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:04 am Post subject: |
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I guess yOu and Lynne are the only other ones participating in this Challenge!!! Oh well...
3/27
Coffee
HC
Assorted Cheeses
Water
Orange Green Tea
BBQ Country-Style Pork Ribs
(I won't buy those again, absolutely tasteless and a waste of jaw exercise!!)  _________________ Bobi
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:15 am Post subject: |
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this challenge, i'm going to make it to the end..
not exactly the course i was supposed to be maintaining...
but still the course i took..
what i have learned is that i cannot go completely ZC.
there are times when i want a sour pickle with my bunless burger....
or my cold beers..
and with summer coming upon us... summer-beer just kind of go together..
food today:
pot roast
chuck steak
woost sauce
sea salt
2 beers (not LC beer) _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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3/28
Coffee
HC
Water
Cheese
Chicken
Orange Green Tea _________________ Bobi
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Day 28
Food
3 eggs
2 oz ham
2 oz swiss
2 tbs butter
8 oz salmon
2 oz heavy cream
1 oz cracklings
1 cup raw broccoli
coffee
I am just eating broccoli this week because it is growing in the garden, and it's kind of nice to eat veggies once in awhile. When it's gone I will probably not eat much vegetation until something else grows in the garden. It's very sweet tasting and enjoyable for now.
calories 1,546, carbs 12.2, carbs 3%, fat 71%, protein 26% _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:09 am Post subject: |
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food today:
chuck steak
dry seasonings
wooster sauce _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:56 am Post subject: |
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add two beers to yesterday's allotment.
and the beef i ate off sticks was heavily salted.
today's meals will have an addition of wine...
going down to Uncle's for sunday dinner.
i am leaving town the first week of April...
i do not plan to be so diligent with my WOE because I won't be home.
i will be eating at least one meal of fried artichoke hearts w/ tartar sauce...
this i know!!!!
but for the most part, i have been promised all the beef i can cook....
thank goddess! _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Lynne..do what you gotta do. I know it won't be easy. I am traveling in a few weeks myself..not sure how I am going to eat because I hate eating out...but I will make the best of it...Might be a good time to make pemmican.? _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Day 29
Food
3 egg omelette with bacon, avocado and swiss.
2 tbs butter
chicken wings and sauce/dip
hamburger patty with cheese
1 oz heavy cream
1/2 n 1/2 in tea
coffee 1/2 decaf
calories 2,189, carbs 8.5, carbs 1%, fat 79%, protein 20%
I am ravenous today..so I ate a lot..a whole lot.. I may even eat some more. _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:19 am Post subject: |
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i went to dinner tonight at my Uncle's house.
he cooked a chix, some orzo, a salad....
when he brought the chix to the table, all the skin was missing..
i never was so pissed before!!!!
so i got out his butter, and smeared a pat of butter on my one chix wing for dinner....
i've never been so pissed about fat being missing before!!!!
so today's meals were:
chuck steak
wooster sauce
hamburger patty
dollop of habanero mustard
1 gl of white wine
1 chix wing w/pat of butter
ICE CREAM! _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Day 30
Food
12 oz brisket
6 slices bacon
1.5 oz tallow
2 oz cream
1/2 decaf coffee
calories 2,060, carbs 1.7, carbs 1%, fat 80%, protein 19%.
I think I need to eat just fat and meat for awhile..
Exercise..20 mile bike ride, 200 crunches, 60 squats, 1 hour brisk walk. I eat a lot when I exercise. _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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y0u

Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 1504 Born: 2 December 2009 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:10 am Post subject: |
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add 10 more squats to that. _________________ Flap-a-doodle-kick-a-poodle-kitty-kitty-cow-cow ~ Fat Freddy's Cat |
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: |
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yesterday's food:
chuck steak
wooster sauce _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: |
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One more day, Y0u....
looks like you and i are the only ones still standing!!!
^5 to y0u! _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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jeff

Location: Milton, Wisconsin, USA Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 6067 Born: 10 March 1960 Gender: Male
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Exercise..20 mile bike ride, 200 crunches, 60 squats, 1 hour brisk walk. I eat a lot when I exercise. |
That's exactly what Taubes concluded from his research for Good Calories, Bad Calories. Exercise does little for weight loss. It just makes people eat more. That's not to say that exercise isn't good, though. It does have many other benefits.  _________________ Eat, Drink and Be Merry, For Tomorrow We'll Die |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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3/30
...And all that were left were three!!!
Coffee
HC
Water
Cheeses
Green Tea
BBQ Chicken
Chicken slices
Swiss Cheese
Hot Chili Pepper
Water _________________ Bobi
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Bobi!!!
today is the last day........
i won't be doing the April Challenge, if there is one.. _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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3/31
And for the final day
Coffee
HC
Water
Beef Patty w/ melted Cheese
Orange Shasta
Orange Green Tea
Chicken w/mayo
THE END!!!  _________________ Bobi
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Bobi

Location: Southern California Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 663 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Lynne,
Me neither!!! But three of us stuck it out until the very end!!!
Congrats to yOu, you and me!!!  _________________ Bobi
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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i suppose i could list today's food, too...
2 eggs
ground beef
wooster sauce
hot sauce
chuck steak _________________ "Failure is an opportunity to start again more intelligently." |
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Lynne

Location: South Florida Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 548 Born: 3 March 1919 Gender: Female
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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yes, good going Bobi for sticking with it a whole month!!!
Y0u, you too doll.... good going for sticking with your program all month.
I strayed a tad... but all in all, i feel good about how i chose to eat.
and i didn't drink a whole bottle of wine by myself this month.

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