The Magic Bus Trip

jem51 · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject:

in my post about spurlock, i put lose but meant gain....maybe he didn't need as much as 5k cal to gain on mcd's diet...sorry.

Vesna · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject:

Jeff,

In case you don't check the introduction thread again, here's what I posted about fitday:

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jeff · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:11 am Post subject:

Jessica · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject:

There's bacon, sausage (watch the nitrates, and look for more natural kinds, like pork side for bacon), lard, fatty meats (like ribeye). I use mayo but some don't like it or don't like using it.
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Red · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:06 am Post subject:

Butter, ghee, lard, duck/goose/chicken fat, beef and lamb tallow... they all have each their own lovely unique flavour.
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jeff · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:50 am Post subject:

Red · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject:

Was your butter salted or unsalted? I used unsalted so that the salt wouldn't interfere with my results. I almost always use unsalted. How did you eat the butter? Just cut it up and eat it?
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jeff · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject:

Red · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject:

Did you feel like you were holding on to extra water or weight at the end and that's why you reduced calories and salt? I'm just curious - I'm not doubting you. Happy

I had no preconceived notions about the results of this experiment when I started it, so I'm not necessarily in the 'it's impossible to gain weight/fat without carbs' camp.
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Vesna · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject:

Thanks for all the info, Jeff!

Did you just drink the cream, as if it were a glass of milk? Or did you put it in the coffee? Or??

Did you use any noncaloric sweeteners in the coffee?

Why all the "nearly raw"? Just a matter of taste, or is that part of the experiment? (When we make country-style ribs, we sear them and then braise them in whatever seasonings for hours until tender, tender tender!

Did you drink certain amounts of water as well, or just as thirst dictated?

Thanks for putting up with millions of questions!

jeff · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject:

jeff · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject:

jeff · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:43 am Post subject:

Here's what a person at AC's place thinks of me:

jeff · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:48 am Post subject:

And from AC himself:

Vesna · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject:

Remarkable! But unsurprising. And hilarious!

By "dehydrated bag of flab," I think CodeSlinger means "way more ripped than me, and enjoying life and eating more, too."

By "idiot," I think AC means "disagrees with me."

What I can't figure out is, why is the site even named "lowcarbmuscle"? It seems like they're teeth-bared, slavering hostile towards low-carb.
Dunno

jeff · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject:

jem51 · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject:

wow, those are some harsh words. and i, too, not understand since AC is a supporter of lc. on these boards, we all have our own ideas about what works and there are ongoing discussions about whether metabolic advantage even exists. but we all seem to agree to disagree w/o name calling. people who respond this way probably respond in the same manner to everything. wouldn't it be dreadful to live w someone like that.

Dean · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject:

jem51 · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject:

i read his interview and he does seem to think his ideas are absolutely correct!!

Jessica · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject:

Wow, if "dehydrated bag of flab" = sexy and ripped, I guess he's right, lol!!!

Plus typos in that.

Plus, this is not a "blog" it's a "forum".

Duh.

What an idiot.
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Jessica · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject:

Also, I agree that why is it called a lowcarb muscle forum?

I don't read it, but doesn't that seem odd?

Why bother having a lowcarb muscle forum if you bash lowcarb?

What DOES AC subscribe to as what should be followed?

Confused

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Dean · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject:

jem51 · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject:

in his interview, he said paleo.

Dean · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject:

jeff · Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject:

Jessica · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:15 am Post subject:

I remember reading his website a long time ago, when he actually had articles and stuff on it.

In the article that told his history, he was basically eating carnivore, but with a veggie/fruit OCCASIONALLY thrown in.

Of course, now that that particular site is gone, nothing can be proved, lol.

Zero carb, low carb, paleo, moderate carb, etc all follow eating NATURAL foods.

Macros can be all over the board, and yet all under the umbrella of paleo.

I've personally tried eating a broader paleo diet (meat, veggies, fruit, and nuts) and I have allergies and intolerance to a lot of veggies, fruit, and nuts. I also had bathroom issues.

So I follow paleo, but eat within what i'm allergic to.

It's really hard to avoid a host of pesticides if you eat veggies & fruit, and are intolerant of them like me (including migraines). Others are fine with them.
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Heather · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:14 am Post subject:

Dean · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject:

jem51 · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject:

jessica, it is hard to avoid pesticides, etc even eating meat. don't forget what those cows are eating. you are just getting it second hand. a toast to all who experimented. i agree, screw colpo if he's not even willing to consider another view. when we close our minds, learning and growing cease.

Dean · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject:

Carolyn · Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:57 am Post subject:

Jeff,
Did you use any noncaloric sweeteners? did you drink a certain amount of water? you didn't do any exercise, right?
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Dan · Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 207 Gender: Male

Congratulations on being a mutant, Jeff. :P

Seriously, that's a hell of an experiment. I dunno how you stayed sane ramjetting that much food into yourself on next to no carbs...but bravo.

You should try it again with full body weight training thrown in.
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jeff · Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject:

jeff · Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject:

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I hear you on that. I was doing 4-5k cals/day during my experiment and was pretty much disgusted with eating for the duration.

If I'd been bulking on pizza and Ho Hos it might have been a more pleasant experiment.
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jeff · Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:29 am Post subject:

Dean · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:

You know, jeff, I was meaning to ask you if during this Experiment you felt warmer than normal, due to all that futile cycle activity, which should generate a lot of heat when all that ATP is being broken down. I always notice how warm I get, sometimes even hot, when I eat lots of excess animal fat, while keeping carbs super low. Sure saves money on the heat bill, since I can keep the temps way down during the winter.
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jeff · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject:

Lynne · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:09 pm Post subject:

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:52 am

jeff · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:12 pm Post subject:

Lynne · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject:

this was a very good experiment.
and not once did you stray.
that is such dicipline.
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jeff · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject:

Dean · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:55 am Post subject:

jeff · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:43 am Post subject:

3 month, 6,000 calorie a day? LOL

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