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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And the rest? Wasn't it kind of like sludge? LOL I'm just unable to wrap my head around what the eating experience was like...

Well, I ate the rest.  I have to admit it was a bit less appetizing than I expected.  LOL



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get my beef suet from a local butcher (at Fareway), they just grind it up for me without putting anything extra in it. I'm 5 lbs of it tomorrow!!  Happy I would imagine the texture was like the fat on the side of a steak after warming it up?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manaloa wrote:
I get my beef suet from a local butcher (at Fareway), they just grind it up for me without putting anything extra in it. I'm 5 lbs of it tomorrow!!  Happy I would imagine the texture was like the fat on the side of a steak after warming it up?

Very similar.  But.....I don't know.....there was just somethiing about this stuff that seemed a tiny but different.  Maybe it's just the fact that it wasn't attached to any meat.  LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339

Day 13 was 3597 calories and 88% fat.  I have now consumed an excess of almost 28,000 calories.  I should be up 8 pounds.  We'll see tomorrow morning.  Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're all waiting on pins n needles, Jeff!

Btw, you're making this look so easy!  Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We're all waiting on pins n needles, Jeff!

Btw, you're making this look so easy!  Grin

Thanks Jessica.  Looks can be deceiving.   LOL
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279

Day 14 was 3504 calories and 78% fat.  One of my lower calorie days, but still about 1300 above my daily needs.  I've actually been thinking of cutting my calories just a bit for the last 2 weeks.  I am really tired of feeling stuffed and bloated all the time.  The only time I feel normal is first thing in the morning.  I'll still overeat, just not quite as much.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost forgot.......I did weigh in this morning.  No change at all.  Still 169.  I have overate to the tune of 29106 calories.  I should be up 8.3 pounds.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Almost forgot.......I did weigh in this morning.  No change at all.  Still 169.  I have overate to the tune of 29106 calories.  I should be up 8.3 pounds.


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Wow, that is so amazing!!!!!

And 83% fat, that is insane.

I think you should go celebrate now!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff, are you doing this for a whole month?????


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And 83% fat, that is insane.


Yeah, thank God for heavy whipping cream and butter.  Without those two things I really doubt I could do this.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jeff, are you doing this for a whole month?????


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I will try to do it for another 2 weeks.  Although like I said, I may drop calories just a bit.  Not because I'm afraid of anything.  It's just that I'm really not liking how eating this much makes me feel.  I think Mana can relate, right Mana?  Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no doubt that the reason you were so sick with that cold is because your amino acid pool had to create/direct proteins to digestion, leaving your defense system vulnerable. That metabolic ward is brutal, huh? Shock
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I have no doubt that the reason you were so sick with that cold is because your amino acid pool had to create/direct proteins to digestion, leaving your defense system vulnerable. That metabolic ward is brutal, huh? Shock

That could very well be, because since I started low-carbing I almost never get sick.  Not even a cold.
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Almost forgot.......I did weigh in this morning.  No change at all.  Still 169.  I have overate to the tune of 29106 calories.  I should be up 8.3 pounds.


Way to go Jeff.  Great experiment.  One question.  I was talking to someone at work about your experiment and she wondered if someone who is used to working out and and has quite a bit of muscle would continue to burn calories at the same rate as when they were working out even though they have stopped exercising for a certain time period after they stop working out.  Confusing, I know.  She was thinking that maybe if someone works out on a regular basis, it would take a few weeks for their metabolism to slow down and and wondered if that is why you hadn't gained any weight yet.  But if you continued this way of eating say for 2 months, that eventually your metabolism would fall to what you say is your base of 2200 (?) and then you would start to gain.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROTFL

I hate to say "I told you so"... So, I won't! LOL

And, I think Kim has a good point there, jeff. Wink I think you should continue this Experiment for at least two more months... with one change. I think you should up your calories to about 6,000 a day. LOL

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I was talking to someone at work about your experiment and she wondered if someone who is used to working out and and has quite a bit of muscle would continue to burn calories at the same rate as when they were working out even though they have stopped exercising for a certain time period after they stop working out.

I really don't think so.  If my body is burning through over 4000 calories per day now, wouldn't I have been emaciated before I started this, when I was consuming 2500-2800 calories per day?  And remember, Red did the same experiment with the same results.  And I'm assuming she doesn't have near the muscle mass that I do. (no offense intended, Red.)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ROTFL

I hate to say "I told you so"... So, I won't! LOL

And, I think Kim has a good point there, jeff. Wink I think you should continue this Experiment for at least two more months... with one change. I think you should up your calories to about 6,000 a day. LOL

Alex, secure the doors and windows. Devil

And you be quiet there in the back of the Bus!   I'll do 6,000 calories a day for 3 months when you do it.  Wink

I knew all along this would be tough to do.  That is why I was so reluctant to do it in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259

Day 15 was 3981 calories and 85% fat.  Heavy cream, fried eggs, egg yolks, ham, ribeye steak, butter, and shrimp.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And remember, Red did the same experiment with the same results.  And I'm assuming she doesn't have near the muscle mass that I do. (no offense intended, Red.)


None taken! It's all true. Although I do have the calves of a lumberjack. Only less hairy.
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I will try to do it for another 2 weeks.  Although like I said, I may drop calories just a bit.  Not because I'm afraid of anything.  It's just that I'm really not liking how eating this much makes me feel.  I think Mana can relate, right Mana?  Wink


OMG, yeah, it was awful.

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Almost forgot.......I did weigh in this morning.  No change at all.  Still 169.  I have overate to the tune of 29106 calories.  I should be up 8.3 pounds.


Way to go Jeff.  Great experiment.  One question.  I was talking to someone at work about your experiment and she wondered if someone who is used to working out and and has quite a bit of muscle would continue to burn calories at the same rate as when they were working out even though they have stopped exercising for a certain time period after they stop working out.  Confusing, I know.  She was thinking that maybe if someone works out on a regular basis, it would take a few weeks for their metabolism to slow down and and wondered if that is why you hadn't gained any weight yet.  But if you continued this way of eating say for 2 months, that eventually your metabolism would fall to what you say is your base of 2200 (?) and then you would start to gain.

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yeah, but I did it for like, what, 9 days or so. I have no muscle to speak of and I'm overweight by about at least fifty pounds. I didn't exercise during my part in the ward and I think I lost around three lbs. Besides IF Jeff's "metabolism" was at 4000 calories while he's working out, then wouldn't he have been "losing" weight before he started in the ward. Because I'm pretty sure he did not eat that many calories before he started in the ward.  
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All very good points, Mana. Yup Now, go tell AC all about it! Wink

You didn't want that account anyway, now did you? LOL
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All very good points, Mana. Yup Now, go tell AC all about it! Wink

You didn't want that account anyway, now did you? LOL

I can't wait to go tell AC allllllll about this when all is said and done.  Maybe AC would like some new roller skates for Christmas?   LOL
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Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303

Day 16 was 4967 calories and 86% fat.  Co-jack cheese, sausage, heavy whipping cream, raw eggs yolks, and chuck eye steak.  Ok.....maybe I won't start cutting calories a bit.   LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah, but I did it for like, what, 9 days or so. I have no muscle to speak of and I'm overweight by about at least fifty pounds. I didn't exercise during my part in the ward and I think I lost around three lbs. Besides IF Jeff's "metabolism" was at 4000 calories while he's working out, then wouldn't he have been "losing" weight before he started in the ward. Because I'm pretty sure he did not eat that many calories before he started in the ward.  


Just want to clarify so I can better explain this to my coworker.  Before your experiment Jeff, were you only eating about 2200 cal. before with exercise?  So this would mean if you weren't exercising, your calorie requirement would actually drop even lower?

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Manaloa wrote:
yeah, but I did it for like, what, 9 days or so. I have no muscle to speak of and I'm overweight by about at least fifty pounds. I didn't exercise during my part in the ward and I think I lost around three lbs. Besides IF Jeff's "metabolism" was at 4000 calories while he's working out, then wouldn't he have been "losing" weight before he started in the ward. Because I'm pretty sure he did not eat that many calories before he started in the ward.  


Just want to clarify so I can better explain this to my coworker.  Before your experiment Jeff, were you only eating about 2200 cal. before with exercise?  So this would mean if you weren't exercising, your calorie requirement would actually drop even lower?

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Not quite.  I normally eat about 2500-2800 calories per day.  I got the 2200 using the results of several online metabolism calculators, using a sedentary lifestyle for my activity level.  This seems about right.
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All very good points, Mana. Yup Now, go tell AC all about it! Wink

You didn't want that account anyway, now did you? LOL

I can't wait to go tell AC allllllll about this when all is said and done.  Maybe AC would like some new roller skates for Christmas?   LOL

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I see AC has come to check out our Metabolic Ward. I hope Alex gives him the grand tour. Don't forget about the padded cell. Bonkers
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Not quite.  I normally eat about 2500-2800 calories per day.  I got the 2200 using the results of several online metabolism calculators, using a sedentary lifestyle for my activity level.  This seems about right.


Okay, well that still helps my explanation.  Good for you for trying this.

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All very good points, Mana. Yup Now, go tell AC all about it! Wink

You didn't want that account anyway, now did you? LOL

I can't wait to go tell AC allllllll about this when all is said and done.  Maybe AC would like some new roller skates for Christmas?   LOL

Like these?

That's perfect, Heather.   Yup  

Dean, AC has been here?  Shock
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Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303
17             4676                73531                     4325

Day 17 was 4676 calories and 86% fat.  Fried eggs, egg yolks, heavy whiping cream, cheese, sausage and ribeye steak.  Oh, and coffee.  Assume coffee every day, even if I don't put it down.  Wink
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Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303
17             4676                73531                     4325
18             3386                76917                     4274

Day 18 was 3386 calories and 83% fat.  I made Bear's chicken with butter and cream cheese recipe for dinner.  I had 5 chicken thighs.  Alot of the butter and cream cheese ends up running out, so I didn't count most of what I actually used.  It's still in the pan, though.  If I decide to drink it, I'll come back and make adjustments.  I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.

So, jeff, who's sneaking booze in to you? Where's Alex at? She isn't taking this security thing very seriously, now is she. Wink

Just don't tell AC... he will say we aren't running a "tightly controlled" ward, here. LOL Hey, the jokes on him, right? Grin We know exactly what we're doin' on the Bus! Devil
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.


Ew.
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ROTFL

That's what I like so much about you, Red. You always get right to the point! LOL
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I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.


Ew.


I much prefer real beer, but I just can't spare the carbs.  Especially now that I'm in this metabolic ward thing.  Even when I'm not in here, I never do real beer anymore.  Maybe I should just stick to scotch, Red?   Wink
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I also had 2 Miller Genuine Draft Light beers.  2.4g carb each.

So, jeff, who's sneaking booze in to you? Where's Alex at? She isn't taking this security thing very seriously, now is she. Wink

Just don't tell AC... he will say we aren't running a "tightly controlled" ward, here. LOL Hey, the jokes on him, right? Grin We know exactly what we're doin' on the Bus! Devil


She was ummm.........distracted. Yeah, that's it.   Devil
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Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303
17             4676                73531                     4325
18             3386                76917                     4274
19             4091                81008                     4264

Day 19 was 4091 calories and 85% fat.  In addition to the usual steak, eggs and cream, I had a tossed salad with blue cheese dressing and a glasss of merlot at a restaurant.  Boy, things sure are getting lax in this ward.  Where is that guard?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe I should just stick to scotch, Red?   Wink
Now you're speaking my language. Yup
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In addition to the usual steak, eggs and cream, I had a tossed salad with blue cheese dressing and a glasss of merlot at a restaurant.  Boy, things sure are getting lax in this ward.  Where is that guard?

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Maybe I should just stick to scotch, Red?   Wink
Now you're speaking my language. Yup

Only on the Bus would a Metabolic Ward get this way... Devil

I agree with jeff. We must abolish all Metabolic Wards. Wink
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In addition to the usual steak, eggs and cream, I had a tossed salad with blue cheese dressing and a glasss of merlot at a restaurant.  Boy, things sure are getting lax in this ward.  Where is that guard?

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jeff wrote:
Maybe I should just stick to scotch, Red?   Wink
Now you're speaking my language. Yup

Only on the Bus would a Metabolic Ward get this way... Devil

I agree with jeff. We must abolish all Metabolic Wards. Wink

Kind of reminds me of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.  LOL   I'll be Jack Nickolson.  Wink

Dean, we'll have to wait until ALL experiments have been completed before abolishing all the metabolic wards.
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Dean, we'll have to wait until ALL experiments have been completed before abolishing all the metabolic wards.

I've got a better idea. Since we've lost our security expert, and AC is now on the loose (that's a scary thought, huh? Wow ), why don't we just cruise this Bus to every Metabolic Ward in the world and free all the patients. Yup They can jump on the Bus and do these experiments the Magic way. Cool  Devil  Wink
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Dean, we'll have to wait until ALL experiments have been completed before abolishing all the metabolic wards.

I've got a better idea. Since we've lost our security expert, and AC is now on the loose (that's a scary thought, huh? Wow ), why don't we just cruise this Bus to every Metabolic Ward in the world and free all the patients. Yup They can jump on the Bus and do these experiments the Magic way. Cool  Devil  Wink


I dunno.......I really want to see you do this one, Dean.  After all, it was your idea.  Wink   Then we can close all the wards.  Yup
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Day           Calories        Total Calories         Avg. Daily Calories
1               4260                 4260                      4260
2               3101                 7361                      3681
3               6423                13784                     4595
4               4606                18390                     4598
5               4712                23102                     4620
6               3884                26986                     4498
7               3990                30976                     4425
8               3375                34351                     4294
9               4875                39226                     4358
10             4827                44053                     4405
11             3981                48034                     4367
12             4772                52806                     4401
13             3597                56403                     4339
14             3504                59907                     4279
15             3981                63888                     4259
16             4967                68855                     4303
17             4676                73531                     4325
18             3386                76917                     4274
19             4091                81008                     4264
20             3635                84643                     4232

Day 20 was 3635 calories and 87% fat.  The guard must be back on duty.  Nobody snuck any booze or salad into the metabolic ward today.  LOL   Eggs, bacon, cream and pork shoulder roast.
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No booze???? Wow! Yup
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No booze???? Wow! Yup

Or more likely.....somebody tried to sneak some in, but the guard confiscated it and drank it herself.  Mad
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No booze???? Wow! Yup

Or more likely.....somebody tried to sneak some in, but the guard confiscated it and drank it herself.  Mad


Hammer Don't start spreading rumours about me, or you will be in big trouble, just wait until BJ's back to discuss your punishment, or did you really think this would be easily forgotten  Livid

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Boy, this place sure isn't what it used to be, how about some KoolAid for everyone, Shawn?  Cool

I need something to relax anyway Roll Eyes .
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I just contacted Shawn, and she informed me that she is busy making another batch of Kool-Aid. Apparently, AC thought the last batch was his "glucose juice", and he injected a "very large" amount into... well, his escape was inevitable, it seems... he went straight through the wall. Wow That also explains the reports coming in from Dr Mike, about the naked, roller-skating man with the Santa Claus cap... Bonkers

BTW, AC didn't use up all the Kool-Aid (just most of it). What he left of that last batch was consumed by jeff and Heather... in my journal! Shock They're still looking for that key... Devil
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No booze???? Wow! Yup

Or more likely.....somebody tried to sneak some in, but the guard confiscated it and drank it herself.  Mad


Hammer Don't start spreading rumours about me, or you will be in big trouble, just wait until BJ's back to discuss your punishment, or did you really think this would be easily forgotten  Livid

You just made a big mistake, don't think you will get out that fast. No No

Maybe you can borrow Heather's whip.  Devil



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