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Day 3 is going great! I'm on track for well over 5000 calories. It's amazing the things I can accomplish when Mrs. L is at work.  I even got the outside Christmas lights working! 
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Looking back at my old experiments I noticed that I was only usinig about .25 to .5 cups of cream per day most of the time. This time around I will probably average 1-2 cups. I'm just wondering how many carbs, if any, are actually in this stuff. I know Red thinks there must be some, otherwise it would be butter. But Dean has promised me that his company has taken all carbs out of their heavy whipping cream. We will see, I guess.
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It'll be good to know as a reference. Monitor your weight closely, though.
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| Red wrote: | | It'll be good to know as a reference. Monitor your weight closely, though. |
Yes, I'm going to check after one week. If I'm up, the cream would be the likely culprit. I love the cream though, 'cause it's such an easy way to get alot of calories very easily. On the other hand, I am leaving the wine alone, which I did not do before. So, it could be that without the wine, I can handle the few extra carbs that might be in the cream.
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| jeff wrote: | | But Dean has promised me that his company has taken all carbs out of their heavy whipping cream. |
That's a guarantee we make, BTW... or your calories back. 
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| Dean wrote: | | jeff wrote: | | But Dean has promised me that his company has taken all carbs out of their heavy whipping cream. |
That's a guarantee we make, BTW... or your calories back. |
That's good enough for me. 
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| After checking around 6 grams per cup seems to be about right. |
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| Rich wrote: | | After checking around 6 grams per cup seems to be about right. |
I know that's what Fitday says. But depending on the brand, it can vary some. The stuff I use says 100% of the calories come from fat. Now, I understand that there can be some fudging because of rounding. However, the stuff we use at the restaurant where I work has 60 calories, but ony 50 are from fat. The rest is divided between protein and fat. In these situations, I'm more likely to go with what it says on the package versus what Fitday says.
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Ok, I just checked with calorieking.com. You can look up individual brands there. They also have an "average of all brands". The average is .4g carb per tablespoon. The individual brands seem to range from 0-.6g per tabelspoon. Draw your own conclusions I guess.
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Mix it down with coconut oil, Jeff.
(loves coconut oil)
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| Dan wrote: | Mix it down with coconut oil, Jeff.
(loves coconut oil) |
I do need to pick up some coconut oil. We'll have to sneak it past that guard at the door, though. I wonder how we could bribe her? 
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3 6423 13784 4595
Day 3 was over 6400 calories, 84% fat. I had cream, egg yolks, butter,
and 3 pounds of a combination of country style pork ribs, and chuck eye steak.
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Hey, jeff... were you ever able to hunt down some pork belly? Or don't they allow any other animals but dairy cows in your state?
BTW... we are almost complete on our acquisition of every farm in the Badger State!
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| jeff wrote: | DAY CALORIES TOTAL CALORIES AVG CALORIES
1 4260 4260 4260
2 3101 7361 3681
3 6423 13784 4595
Day 3 was over 6400 calories, 84% fat. I had cream, egg yolks, butter,
and 3 pounds of a combination of country style pork ribs, and chuck eye steak. |
I was going to have the ribs tonite, how do you cook them? |
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| Rich wrote: | | jeff wrote: | DAY CALORIES TOTAL CALORIES AVG CALORIES
1 4260 4260 4260
2 3101 7361 3681
3 6423 13784 4595
Day 3 was over 6400 calories, 84% fat. I had cream, egg yolks, butter,
and 3 pounds of a combination of country style pork ribs, and chuck eye steak. |
I was going to have the ribs tonite, how do you cook them? |
These ribs are boneless.....just long slabs of meat. I just sear them in a hot pan. I eat them very rare.
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| Dean wrote: | Hey, jeff... were you ever able to hunt down some pork belly? Or don't they allow any other animals but dairy cows in your state?
BTW... we are almost complete on our acquisition of every farm in the Badger State! |
I haven't made it to the meat market yet. I seem to be doing ok calorie-wise, though, without the pork belly. And congrats on you acquisition of all the Wisconsin dairy farms.
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eggs fried in butter, heavy whippinig cream, co-jack cheese(sorry), chicken thighs, scrambled eggs, ribeye steak, coffee.
If I can manage to average 4500 calories per day, this would give me an extra 69,000 calories. That should be enough for an expected 20 pound fat gain.
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| jeff wrote: | | If I can manage to average 4500 calories per day, this would give me an extra 69,000 calories. . |
Now, there's the incentive you need!
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WOW 
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You might want to list your weight along with the day's calories, Jeff.
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| Dan wrote: | | You might want to list your weight along with the day's calories, Jeff. |
I'm not going to weigh every day. I'm going to weigh after one week, and them probably not again until the 30 days is up.
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| Heather wrote: | | WOW |
Day 3 contained 604g of fat!!! 
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Just finishinig up dinner on day 5.
DAY CALORIES TOTAL CALORIES AVG CALORIES
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2 3101 7361 3681
3 6423 13784 4595
4 4606 18390 4598
5 4712 23102 4620
I had coffee, heavy cream , raw egg yolks, ribeye steak, chicken thighs, and butter. 83% fat.
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I bought 2 quarts of cream at the store today. Getting tired of going to the Piggly Wiggly every other day for my cream.
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That should last you all of... what, 3-1/2 days?
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| Red wrote: | | That should last you all of... what, 3-1/2 days? |
4 if I stretch it.
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6 3884 26986 4498
Butter, but not much today, eggs fried in butter, raw egg yolks, heavy whipping cream, co-jack cheese, roast beef, coffee. 82% fat.
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2 3101 7361 3681
3 6423 13784 4595
4 4606 18390 4598
5 4712 23102 4620
6 3884 26986 4498
7 3990 30976 4425
Day 7 was 3990 calories, and I managed 88% fat.  I had coffee, butter, heavy whipping cream, bacon, eggs fried in butter, very rare ground beef, and some co-jack cheese.
For the first week I consumed an excess 15575 calories. If there is no metabolic advantage to this way of eating, I should have gained 4.45 pounds of fat.
My weight this morning was 169. Exactly the same as last saturday morning. I will continue for another 3 weeks, although I really don't know why the next 3 weeks should be any different than the first. It will mostly be a test of my ability to continue eating this way.
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| jeff wrote: | | I will continue for another 3 weeks, although I really don't know why the next 3 weeks should be any different than the first. It will mostly be a test of my ability to continue eating this way. |
Does that mean I can stay out of this MAM Metabolic Ward?
How 'bout I just ship AC some roller skates for xmas?
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| Ah, another experiment! Good work Jeff, your dedication is inspiring. Very interested in the final results. A question, do you do any exercise and if so are you including the cals lost? Also is it alot easier to get enough calories now that you're using whipping cream as opposed to butter in your previous experiment? |
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| Adapaz wrote: | | Ah, another experiment! Good work Jeff, your dedication is inspiring. Very interested in the final results. A question, do you do any exercise and if so are you including the cals lost? Also is it alot easier to get enough calories now that you're using whipping cream as opposed to butter in your previous experiment? |
No exercise is allowed in this metabolic ward. The heavy whipping cream does make it alot easier to get the extra calories in. It is such a dense form of pure fat, and for me, much easier to down in large quantities than butter is.
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| Dean wrote: | | jeff wrote: | | I will continue for another 3 weeks, although I really don't know why the next 3 weeks should be any different than the first. It will mostly be a test of my ability to continue eating this way. |
Does that mean I can stay out of this MAM Metabolic Ward?
How 'bout I just ship AC some roller skates for xmas? |
Hell no!!! This whole things was your idea, and you had to talk me into it. I'll cut you a deal, though. How about we shorten it to 2 weeks? Red did it for a whole month, and we saw the results. I am on the same track as she was, as I was the other 2 times I did similar experiments. Unless somebody knows of a reason why fat would start being stored only after 2 or 3 weeks, but not during the first 2. It's not like the fat is just floating around in my blood, waiting to be stored. And even if it was, it would be showing up on the scale, right?
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3 6423 13784 4595
4 4606 18390 4598
5 4712 23102 4620
6 3884 26986 4498
7 3990 30976 4425
8 3375 34351 4294
I managed 3375 calories today, and 83% fat. Not feeling well. I have a bad cold, which I almost never get anymore. Calories have been a bit low the last few days. I think I can make up for it today and tomorrow. I'll not list the food, since it's basically the same as the previous days.
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It's interesting to note that my average daily calories are just about exactly double my maintenance calories of 2200.
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| jeff wrote: | | I'll cut you a deal, though. How about we shorten it to 2 weeks? Red did it for a whole month, and we saw the results. I am on the same track as she was, as I was the other 2 times I did similar experiments. Unless somebody knows of a reason why fat would start being stored only after 2 or 3 weeks, but not during the first 2. It's not like the fat is just floating around in my blood, waiting to be stored. And even if it was, it would be showing up on the scale, right? |
I may be wrong but I think you guys should go 4 weeks. I have heard that studies of 2 weeks are not long enough. Don't know the reason though.
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jeff, sneak around the back, while Alex is not looking... I'll break ya out of there!
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jeff, sneak around the back, while Alex is not looking... I'll break ya out of there! |
You can do whatever you want really, I don't have the time nor the energy to guard you anyway.  |
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| Alex wrote: | | Dean wrote: |
jeff, sneak around the back, while Alex is not looking... I'll break ya out there! |
You can do whatever you want really, I don't have the time nor the energy to guard you anyway. |
I'll try to keep going. Dean, you're not getting off the hook that easy.
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Day Calories Total Calories Avg. Daily Calories
1 4260 4260 4260
2 3101 7361 3681
3 6423 13784 4595
4 4606 18390 4598
5 4712 23102 4620
6 3884 26986 4498
7 3990 30976 4425
8 3375 34351 4294
9 4875 39226 4358
Day 9 was 4875 calories and 85% fat. I've been sick, but feeling better today.
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Day Calories Total Calories Avg. Daily Calories
1 4260 4260 4260
2 3101 7361 3681
3 6423 13784 4595
4 4606 18390 4598
5 4712 23102 4620
6 3884 26986 4498
7 3990 30976 4425
8 3375 34351 4294
9 4875 39226 4358
10 4827 44053 4405
I don't feel any fatter yet.
To this point, I've taken in an extra 22053 calories. I should be up 6.3 pounds.
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Day Calories Total Calories Avg. Daily Calories
1 4260 4260 4260
2 3101 7361 3681
3 6423 13784 4595
4 4606 18390 4598
5 4712 23102 4620
6 3884 26986 4498
7 3990 30976 4425
8 3375 34351 4294
9 4875 39226 4358
10 4827 44053 4405
11 3981 48034 4367
Day 11 was 3981 calories and 85% fat. No foods out of the ordinary. Meat, eggs, butter, cream.
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| jeff wrote: | | Day 3 is going great! I'm on track for well over 5000 calories. It's amazing the things I can accomplish when Mrs. L is at work. I even got the outside Christmas lights working! |
Handsome, sexy, and handy around the house.
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| jeff wrote: | | Dan wrote: | Mix it down with coconut oil, Jeff.
(loves coconut oil) |
I do need to pick up some coconut oil. We'll have to sneak it past that guard at the door, though. I wonder how we could bribe her? |
Maybe I need to start sending you emergency rations, lol?!
I'll plant a big ole jar of coconut oil in a big, leafy salad!!!
edited: sorry, thought you meant Mrs. Jeff!
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| Jessica wrote: | | jeff wrote: | | Day 3 is going great! I'm on track for well over 5000 calories. It's amazing the things I can accomplish when Mrs. L is at work. I even got the outside Christmas lights working! |
Handsome, sexy, and handy around the house.
Huh.
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Heather says I'm "marriage material".
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Day Calories Total Calories Avg. Daily Calories
1 4260 4260 4260
2 3101 7361 3681
3 6423 13784 4595
4 4606 18390 4598
5 4712 23102 4620
6 3884 26986 4498
7 3990 30976 4425
8 3375 34351 4294
9 4875 39226 4358
10 4827 44053 4405
11 3981 48034 4367
12 4772 52806 4401
Day 12, 4772 calories and 87% fat! I added a new food.....beef suet! I just warmed some up a bit in pan. 3 ounces contains 726 calories.
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| jeff wrote: | | I just warmed some up a bit in pan. |
And then what? Didn't it just kind of liquify? The suet I can buy here in the little bags has wheat flour in it. 
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| Red wrote: | | jeff wrote: | | I just warmed some up a bit in pan. |
And then what? Didn't it just kind of liquify? The suet I can buy here in the little bags has wheat flour in it. |
It began to do that, but I only had it in the pan for a couple of minutes. The bit that did liquify I just poured out of the pan and onto my seared ribeye, so none got wasted.
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And the rest? Wasn't it kind of like sludge? I'm just unable to wrap my head around what the eating experience was like...
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