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Kim



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Grass Fed vs Corn Fed Meat Reply with quote

Based on recommendation from Dr. Eades, I just read the Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan.  It's basically about a book about where our food comes from start to finish.  For instance starting in the corn field to the grass fed cattle in the feed lots.  It was a very interesting read and it makes me think twice that I should be eating grass fed meat instead of regular supermarket buys.  It also talks about what all they make from corn and it seems like corn is in everything these days, even low carb sauces as a filler, preservative thickner, etc.  

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your next stop - "Against the Grain - How Agriculture Has Hijacked Civilization" by Richard Manning. Interesting to note was how gov't nutritional advice is most often based around what's in surplus and therefore needs to be gotten rid of (ie: grains)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pollan's In Defense of Food is also quite good, even if I disagree with some of his thoughts.

As for grass fed vs grain/corn fed..... it seems like a good idea, but there is certainly a higher cost at the checkout counter, and sometimes, a loss in taste.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Bear mentioned that Grass-fed and Corn-fed have the same nutrition, just the only difference is taste and texture.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He did seem to say so; even if there is a difference in the nutritional aspect of it, we have got to be so much better off, even with grain fed, as long as we don't screw around with the carbs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there really is a whirlwind of confusion about the topic though. There are plenty of sources that say grass-fed has more omega-3s and less saturated fat, which is probably garbage to try to get the low-fat fanatics on the beef bandwagon. Even www.biblelife.org says that grass-fed beef salesman exagerrate about this.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Article on msn regarding grass vs grain: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?p=7497962#post7497962

The battle continues..... LOL
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

somewhere there was a study....the end result was that grass fed has a similar omega balance as wild (deer, i think). i think it was in the midwest...like maybe colorado.  anyone??
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At are local farmer's market, there is a family that sells their own beef and it is grain feed beef, but they grow all their own feed.  I might try some of that.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kim wrote:
At are local farmer's market, there is a family that sells their own beef and it is grain feed beef, but they grow all their own feed.  I might try some of that.

Kim


Just curious, how is that price of that beef compared to normal supermarket beef?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this: I live in the middle of cattle country yet we only have grass about 6 months of the year (if we are lucky). The rest of the time we have cold and snow. Trying to get grass fed here is almost impossible and the prices are outrageous. So the only thing I can barely afford is organic, free range (and how free range are they when there's 6 feet of snow and it's 40 below zero) eggs.

And ordering things like meat over the internet just doesn't appeal to me. And since I don't have relatives who own a farm, I'm sticking to storr bought meats. Sometimes we just don't have a lot of choice. No whole foods or trader joe's here either.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:13 am    Post subject: grass vs. grain fed beef Reply with quote

Trem,  
   I'm wondering if you've ever eaten raw fat.  Raw fat that is golden yellow from cows eating for months on fresh green grass, the kind you walk in that's up to your knees, and then compare that fat to the pure white fat you get from grain fed cows or even cows eating brown, dry grass without any grain at all.  The grass has to be green for the tests to show essential fatty acid profile differences.    All extremely high omega three fats start from a food base high in chlorophyl.   Find fat that looks deep yellow.  Taste it, and then tell me you still believe there's no difference.  I wish I could provide the raw materials for you.    As we get older, it's more difficult to change our opinions about things we believe in.  This includes Ken from Biblelife and Bear.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had to choose which was healthier, I'd go with grass-fed, especially the stuff Van just described. That knee high grass. Yah, I'm gonna be looking into planting a lot of the native Kansas grass and raising lots of bison on it. No grains. Cool

All that being said, it's really hard for lots of people to get grass-fed, so, the next best thing is grain-fed. Beats eating grains, I'm positive of that. Yup
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jem51 wrote:
somewhere there was a study....the end result was that grass fed has a similar omega balance as wild (deer, i think). i think it was in the midwest...like maybe colorado.  anyone??


I'm  not sure if this is it, but I found it interesting:

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WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. – Eat meat. That's the dietary advice given by a team of scientists who examined the dietary role of fat in a study that combined nutritional analysis with anthropologic research about the diets of ancient hunter-gatherer societies.

But there's a catch: To be as healthy as a cave man you have to eat certain kinds of fish, wild game such as venison, or grass-fed meat such as beef.

The research was conducted by Bruce Watkins, professor and university faculty scholar at Purdue University and director of the Center for Enhancing Foods to Protect Health, and anthropologist Loren Cordain, professor of health and exercise science at Colorado State University and author of "The Paleo Diet" (John Wiley & Sons, 2002). Watkins and Cordain conducted detailed chemical analysis of the meats people ate 10,000 years ago and compared those results to the most common meat people eat today.


http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020204.Watkins.paleo.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: grass vs. grain fed beef Reply with quote

Van wrote:
Trem,  
   I'm wondering if you've ever eaten raw fat.  Raw fat that is golden yellow from cows eating for months on fresh green grass, the kind you walk in that's up to your knees, and then compare that fat to the pure white fat you get from grain fed cows or even cows eating brown, dry grass without any grain at all.  The grass has to be green for the tests to show essential fatty acid profile differences.    All extremely high omega three fats start from a food base high in chlorophyl.   Find fat that looks deep yellow.  Taste it, and then tell me you still believe there's no difference.  I wish I could provide the raw materials for you.    As we get older, it's more difficult to change our opinions about things we believe in.  This includes Ken from Biblelife and Bear.


Yes, I have tasted grass-fed tallow from www.grasslandbeef.com. It did taste a lot better, but how can we be sure that the fat profiles are  different? I've also tasted raw milk from grass-fed cows and pastuerized milk from grain-fed cows and the taste was better for the raw milk - the farm said the fat profile was the same as normal milk.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trem wrote:
Kim wrote:
At are local farmer's market, there is a family that sells their own beef and it is grain feed beef, but they grow all their own feed.  I might try some of that.

Kim


Just curious, how is that price of that beef compared to normal supermarket beef?


It's a bit more expensive.  I noticed today that hamburger was about 4.98 a pound and I saw some chuck steaks that I thought said about $7 a pound.  It was really crowded today so I couldn't get a close as I would have liked.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.michaelpollan.com/article.php?id=14

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